Breeding unregistered Staffordshire Bull Terriers

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Hi everyone, I’m the proud owner of a beautiful 2-year-old Staffy. She has her pedigree papers but hasn't been 'confirmed' yet; we wanted to get her breeding validation sorted, but all the dog shows were cancelled due to COVID. A friend of ours also has a pedigree Staffy that hasn't been confirmed, and unfortunately, our two have done more than just play... Puppies are on the way, but we’re really scared that because the pups won’t be officially registered, they’ll be considered 'banned types' (that's what I've been reading on the Kennel Club website...). Thanks in advance and have a lovely evening.
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    It’s absolute nonsense. 😁 Loads of sites must be getting the American Staffordshire Terrier and the Staffordshire Bull Terrier mixed up, but who knows who’s right and who’s wrong. 🤭
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    It varies so much depending on which site you look at! I’ve just been reading on various pages that non-pedigree Staffies are Category 1, then Category 2, then not restricted at all. Blimey! And after double-checking, my relative’s non-pedigree Staffy is definitely Category 2. 😂 It’s a total muddle. Hi there, How can she be Category 2 when the dogs in that bracket are clearly defined as pedigree Amstaffs, Rottweilers (both pedigree and non-pedigree) and pedigree Tosas? I’m struggling to get my head around it. A pedigree Staffy isn’t restricted at all, but a non-pedigree one can end up as Category 1 if the breed type assessment goes against them.
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    It varies so much depending on the site! I’ve just been reading on various websites: - that non-pedigree Staffies are Category 1 - that non-pedigree Staffies are Category 2 - that non-pedigree Staffies aren’t categorised at all Blimey! And after double-checking, my relatives' non-pedigree Staffie is actually Category 2. 😂 You honestly can’t make head or tail of it.
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    Normally, no, a Staffie isn't a banned breed... well, it seems to vary depending on which source you look at.

    https://www.gov.uk/control-dog-public/banned-dogs .

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    The link I shared is from the government, and it does say that a Staffy without Kennel Club registration is classed as Category 1. It’s a bit like Mastiffs—if they’re KC registered they aren't restricted, but without papers they go straight into Category 1. Mind you, I don’t think it applies to all Staffies; it always depends on whether they’re considered a 'Pit Bull type', but some Staffies weigh well over 44 lbs (about 3 stone) these days. So, a Staffy without papers can be put in Category 1. Just a reminder that you need at least two 'disqualifying features' to avoid being categorised, and aside from the size (which isn’t an exact science), the Staffy ticks all the boxes. https://www.staffordshirebullterrierclubdefrance.com/le-lof
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    Hi Sky, Actually, a Kennel Club registered Staffie isn't restricted, whereas a pedigree Amstaff is Category 2. On the other hand, a non-registered Staffie counts as Category 1, I believe—definitely worth checking. From memory, Category 1 refers to dogs meeting certain physical criteria like Rotties, Pit Bulls, Amstaffs, Tosas and Boerboels that aren't on the breed register, while Category 2 includes certain pedigree breeds like Rotties and Amstaffs. The problem with Staffies is that some people want a dog that's much heavier than the breed standard, so you end up with a dog that looks more like an Amstaff than a Staffie.
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    Err... Staffies (Staffordshire Bull Terriers) aren’t normally on the restricted list at all, whether they have official pedigree papers or not. It’s the AmStaffs (American Staffordshire Terriers) that are categorised (Category 1 for those without pedigree papers, Category 2 for those with). From what I know, it is possible for a Staffy to be categorised, but you also have the option to register them as a pedigree if they meet the official breed standards. Either way, you’ll need to have a breed assessment done, and there are specific height standards used to categorise a dog. Staffies can usually avoid it as they’re quite a bit smaller... Do you know a vet who does breed assessments and could give you some advice once they've seen the parents? https://monstaffie.fr/staffie-categorie/#:~:text=Le%20staffordshire%20bull%20terrier%20LOF,n'entre%20dans%20aucune%20cat%C3%A9gorie.&text=En%20revanche%2C%20un%20staffie%20non,port%C3%A9e%20de%20parents%20non%20LOF. https://monstaffie.fr/le-standard-lof/
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    I think there’s a bit of a mix-up between AmStaffs (American Staffordshire Terriers) and Staffies (Staffordshire Bull Terriers)... 😧

    As far as I’m aware, the two aren’t classified in the same way.

    AmStaff:

    https://wamiz.co.uk/dog/breeds/american-staffordshire-terrier

    Staffie:

    https://wamiz.co.uk/dog/breeds/staffordshire-bull-terrier

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    Hi there, I might sound harsh or even cruel, but if I were in your shoes, I would have the pregnancy terminated or, if it’s unfortunately too late or too risky, have the puppies put to sleep. The law is unfair and ridiculous, but bringing potentially banned breeds into the world isn’t doing them any favours in the long run. They’d have to be muzzled and kept on a lead at all times, and at the slightest slip-up—even over nothing at all—the authorities won’t hesitate to have them put down. Not to mention that given the restrictions for a future owner of a banned type, you risk only attracting the wrong crowd looking for a status symbol or some sense of "toughness". To them, your cute little puppy will just be seen as a potential fighting dog for their estate.
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    Draugen. I think they’ve got it wrong; she’s either a Category 1 dog or not restricted at all. Or maybe you’re getting mixed up with an Amstaff, which is Category 2 because it’s Kennel Club registered.
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