Hi everyone, basically, I'm trying to mate my little princess, Molly, with her boyfriend, Leo. We’re roughly on day 12 of her season, and this is the second day I've taken her over to the stud. As soon as they saw each other, they 'went for it' and Leo mounted her straight away to get down to business, but the problem is they still aren't reaching 'the tie'... which is the final stage of the mating. I was wondering if any of you had some advice on how to make sure that final stage actually happens. Thanks.
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Just to clarify, Mady never said that the ***** was rejecting the male here :-) She’s simply noticing that the dogs are mating but aren't "tying" at the end. I don't think she has any intention of forcing things; she was just wondering if the absence of a tie would have any impact on the chances of her getting pregnant.
Yeah, honestly, between the advice from student vets who say you should take away a dog's water bowl so they don't need to go for a wee, and this person suggesting—even with a disclaimer—to force a mating on a reluctant ***** (it’s rape, and that’s not anthropomorphism, it’s just what it’s called!), this forum is starting to really scare me. I'm relieved to see that others feel the same way as I do. 😯
Phew, I’m not the only one who finds this kind of advice genuinely terrifying... as @Balista said, it’s against nature; dogs respect the female's consent.
Honestly, between the advice from student vets saying to take away a dog's water bowl so they don't need to pee, and this person suggesting – even with a caveat – to force mating on an unwilling female dog (it’s rape, and that isn't anthropomorphism, it’s just what it’s called!), this forum is starting to seriously worry me.
So I’m relieved to see that some people are on the same page as me 😯
It’s mostly just against nature. If the ***** doesn't want to be mated, or if she refuses to go 'all the way' (i.e. until the tie), she has her reasons (too young, too stressed, not receptive to the male, or not at the right point in her cycle...).
So you shouldn't force the girl... no means no! As the saying goes! I know, a bit of a random reference! But if she’s not up for it, she’s not up for it, and if there’s a risk of both of them getting seriously hurt on top of that... I don't think that’s the result anyone is looking for!
If the tie doesn't happen, it’s more than likely that the issue lies with your *****. It’s a complex behavioural issue that I won’t go into in detail here. You can restrain your ***** during mating to ensure the tie occurs, but you should be aware that there is a risk of serious injury to both the male and the female (fracture of the penile bone for the male, and tearing of the vulva and uterus for the female, with a risk of internal haemorrhage). If your ***** is unwilling to mate, she may well refuse to stay tied to the male for thirty minutes, or even up to 2 hours if she’s stressed. Furthermore, if she rejects the mating, it’s also likely she might reject her puppies at birth, meaning you’d have to separate them from their mother straight away. In that situation, the puppy mortality rate is extremely high during the first 15 days. Because of this, solid breeding experience and strict supervision from a vet are essential. You also need to know that, behaviourally, your puppies won’t be unaffected if you don’t take the necessary precautions.
Anyway, I’ve just given you some food for thought. It doesn't mean it’s a certainty, as every dog is different.
Evening, thanks for your reply. Yes, I was talking about the part where they get "tied". He is definitely managing to mate, but they aren't actually tying... I’ve read that this doesn't necessarily mean the mating hasn't been successful, but that it might have an impact on the size of the litter... fingers crossed anyway... thanks again! :)
