Puppy and stairs! How do I get him to understand he isn't allowed upstairs?

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Hi everyone,

My partner and I adopted a little Jack Russell cross Brittany Spaniel two days ago. He was born on 19th June (making him about 10 weeks old) and was living with his mum, a sister (from a litter of five), another dog, and a cat before we took him home.

On our side, this isn't our first dog. We lost our previous one nearly a year ago (a Pyrenean Sheepdog who lived to 15) and we have a small deaf cat who is about 3 or 4 years old (we rescued him as an adult).

We are using positive reinforcement, or at least we're trying our best, as we know he's a very high-energy breed. During the day, everything is going well; he is very bright, learns quickly, and things are going quite smoothly with our cat.

Commands like "sit", "no", and "bed" are currently being learned, as is walking on a lead. We are waiting for him to be fully jabbed before taking him out for proper walks, so for now, he has stayed in the house and garden.

Anyway, sorry for the long introduction (I'm new to the site!), but I wanted to get to the first problem we've encountered: the night-time.

We live in a house with an upstairs and we want to make that floor out of bounds (not to mention the fact that it's not recommended for puppies to go up and down stairs). The problem is, the little lad panics, howls, and cries as soon as we go up to bed. Again, nothing unusual for the first few days, except that he tries to follow us up.

We have a flimsy stair gate that worked for our old dog, but he just makes short work of it and manages to get upstairs anyway. And that's the point where we aren't sure how to react.

We've tried saying "No!" from the landing or once he's reached the top. We take him back down, either by carrying him or by the scruff, to lead him back to his bed. But nothing works. He howls, screams, and cries, to the point of having diarrhoea, and then he dashes back up again wagging his tail (whether from joy or stress).

The goal is to avoid him continuing this or associating it with a game at all costs. We don't know if we're going about it the right way. Originally, we planned to ignore his crying for a few days to start building his independence, but we didn't imagine our gate would be so useless. Even though he'll rarely be home alone for more than a few hours (my partner has a very light work schedule), we don't want him to become hyper-attached and suffer every time we go out.

Last night, I finally gave in and slept on the sofa, ignoring him completely, and that calmed him down. But it's not a long-term solution.

I'd really like some advice:

What are we doing wrong?

Is it too soon for him to sleep away from us?

Is it normal for him to be this attached to us after only 2 days?

What should we do when he comes upstairs when we've forbidden it?

Thanks in advance for your advice,

Adrien

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  • Damathe
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    I've got a puppy pen for my dogs, but they aren't the same size at all (around 6.6 lbs). They know they're not allowed in the bedrooms even though the hallway isn't closed off, even if they do push their luck every now and then ^^
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    Akribos
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    Thanks for your replies. His bed is in a quiet corner of the living room, and we’ve already tried using old clothes, but that wasn't enough. Regarding the baby gate, ours is just a pressure-fit one, but he manages to force it enough to squeeze through. We’d need a really sturdy one that’s fixed to the wall, but since I’m renting, I’ll have to check with the landlord first. Mind you, I agree, they’re just standard house stairs—only one floor and not very steep—so normally he shouldn’t be using them enough to actually injure himself. Either way, the ultimate goal is for him to follow the rule about not going upstairs; the ground floor and the garden should be plenty for him. Thanks for all your help anyway!
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    If you just put their bed in a nice, quiet spot, it’ll have the exact same effect.

    Personally, I’m not a fan of this trend for crates and playpens.

    You could also leave an old bit of your clothing on their bed, as it might help comfort them.

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    Akribos
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    While browsing the web, I came across the 'concept' of a puppy pen, which was new to me. Apparently, it makes them feel more secure to be in an enclosed space and helps with house training. It’s meant to be used at night (while still waking up for toilet breaks) or when you're out. Any thoughts on this? Thanks in advance!
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    Hello! First of all, you can take him out even if he hasn't had his jabs yet; just make sure he doesn't pick up and eat anything he shouldn't. You aren't doing anything wrong, your little one's reactions are completely normal. He’s only just been taken away from his littermates and he's still a baby; he’ll bond with his new family in no time. About the stairs: during the day, if you go upstairs and he follows you, say "NO", take him back to his bed, and so on. It’s all about repetition and patience. He needs to see you leaving the room as a total non-event, and of course, when he doesn't try to go up, give him loads of praise. A quick trip outside before you go to bed to tire him out should help too. Best of luck!
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