Hi there, I’ve got a girl in season who is making it very clear she’s ready. She’s standing and teasing the dog; he licks her but seems very uninterested. (Just to note, this is his first time, though she’s experienced) 😒
Two days ago, they did manage a mating with a tie after several attempts, but he wasn’t exactly motivated. Today, the ***** is even more keen, but my boy has zero interest... he follows her for a few minutes and licks her; she stands and he mounts her quite lazily and a bit awkwardly, but once he's in position he doesn't thrust at all. He just gets off her and goes back to doing his own thing. She's being very obvious about it, standing perfectly and being very willing; even if he's at a bit of an angle, she adjusts herself to the right position to help him.
Has this happened to anyone before? 🤔 Is there any way to encourage the dog so that they can mate properly??
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[quote=Lebronzéboitdusky] It’s not my first time (6 years of experience, last litter was normal...). It’s easy to judge, I see 😒 Just so you know, the first time wasn't planned at all. My girl was in her first season and she went to a doggy daycare for a week. There was a mix-up with the records and they put her in with an unneutered male. A few weeks later, 8 beautiful puppies, so please keep your assumptions to yourself – that’s not the point. I’m not in Europe, so the LOF pedigree register doesn't exist here! But they are registered, with OFA health tests for elbows, hips, and eyes. Thanks for the "valuable" advice; you can't even ask a question these days without getting slated, it’s very frustrating...
Yeah, yeah, yeah...
That’s a bit much, isn’t it?
Look, you can do what you like (for now 😡), but basically, what you’re saying is that you have two entire females and one entire male, you don’t seem to have much of a clue about breeding, but you still want to go ahead with it anyway, and it's not your first time ("... 6 years experience (last litter usually)...").
Personally, whatever your reasons, this is the kind of behaviour that really winds me up. I’m not against breeding, as long as it’s not done haphazardly and isn't just for the cash. That’s going to be a lot of puppies, so you can’t make me believe you’ve already found homes for most of them, or that you’re going to keep them all. So, I imagine there’s a profit-making side to it—which isn’t illegal, but let’s be honest about it.
Are your dogs KC registered? I’m asking because that’s the bulk of the "backyard" market—purebred dogs where, even if you can’t provide the papers, you as the seller and the buyer both know they have a pedigree. I want to know if you’ve done the necessary health tests, and especially if your GSDs don't come from the same breeder, just to limit the risk of inbreeding.
Honestly, whatever your reasons and your actual situation—I know I don’t have all the facts to understand—I just get the impression you're winging it. I don't think you're being mean; it's more like you see it as a bit of fun, and if anything, that's worse...
Anyway 🙄, I’ll leave it there for a Friday, but it’s because of this sort of thing that people and rescues are becoming more and more hardline, if not downright militant, towards hobby breeders, even though some of them do it properly.
Have a good weekend, and I hope your dog doesn’t find the gap.
My male is nearly two years old; he’s at home with my two females who are currently in season. I’ve tried everything—separating them, putting them back together once the interest drops, then separating them again for a bit before trying again. Indoors, outdoors, with me there, without me... I’ve tried helping him get into position and praising him when he shows interest, but honestly, nothing seems to work. He did mate with one and they managed one tie on 4th October, but since then she’s been even keener and won’t stop pestering him. He just loses interest quickly. When he does get interested and finally mounts her, he doesn’t have the thrusting reflex, so he doesn't really get going and just gives up.
The experienced female is six (this should be her last litter, ideally), so she isn’t really bothered about playing; she just nudges him a bit and stands for him. The male seems more interested in my three-year-old (it’s her first mating), but since they both lack experience and have far too much energy, she won't stand properly. She’s also got a bit of an attitude—as soon as he looks like he’s about to mount, she just moves away. I have to admit, I’m feeling pretty discouraged. I was wondering if there are any natural products out there that might help boost his drive a bit?
Hi there, how old is your boy? It’s quite common during a first mating for the male to be a bit clueless or to lack a bit of libido. Have you tried with a different female? It's really important to let them meet before the female comes into season, as dogs do have their own sexual preferences. They need to spend time together and get used to one another; while some males don’t need this because they have a very high sex drive, others definitely need that extra time, so that might be what was missing for your dog. Also, socialisation plays a part in mating; a dog that was well-socialised as a puppy will usually find breeding much easier.
I’d suggest trying again with a different female, making sure to allow for that adjustment period. For long-haired breeds, you can also trim the hair around the female’s vulva and the male’s prepuce to make things easier, as it can sometimes get in the way. You could also try changing the location. Usually, in breeding, the female is brought to the male, and matings take place in the same spot every time so the male knows what to expect. If you’re planning on using him for future matings, I’d recommend setting up a dedicated "mating area" to help him understand what’s going on.
