Dog training clubs: A massive let-down

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Hi everyone.

I’m writing this post to share an experience I’ve just had with my puppy at a dog training club, and to chat about it with you and all the other lucky new owners of these little balls of fluff :)

First off, I picked up my American Bulldog puppy on the 13th of February (one day off being the love of my life... though mind you, she probably is anyway!).

I’ve always loved dogs, and I’ve really enjoyed scouring websites, videos and training tutorials about "positive reinforcement".

I gave my little Sana two or three days to settle in and get used to her new home, and then I slowly started the first "commands" using either a bit of kibble or a big cuddle as a reward. Everything is going well; she understands what I want quite quickly. But just for fun, I’d already decided to take her to a dog training club for some proper training and, above all, to have her around plenty of "well-behaved" dogs. To date, I’ve visited two dog clubs in my area and the disappointment has been quite hard to take... "Positive reinforcement" was replaced by shouting, leads being yanked in every direction and constant jerking... The trainer even took it upon himself to explain to a woman with a little Shiba: "You know, this breed bites a lot; if he bites you, do this" (he then grabbed the puppy by the scruff of its neck and shook it, which made it yelp).

I was genuinely shocked to see that—forced "downs" where they’re held on the floor with hand pressure on their backs, accompanied by more shouting if the dog tries to get back up.

Please reassure me, am I just being too soft, or can dog training be done differently? :)

I really have no desire to train my dog through force; I’d much rather have a dog that wants a cuddle than one that’s just trying to avoid a lead jerk.

Anyway, I’m going to keep visiting other clubs in my region. I just wanted to share this experience which has left a really bitter taste in my mouth, especially coming from "dog training professionals".

Have a great day, everyone.

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    It doesn’t matter how relevant the messages are, provided the way they’re delivered keeps up the charade: the more categorically they are asserted, the more we trust their reliability; the more they are justified with cryptic remarks and medical jargon, the more we see it as proof of an expertise far superior to our own, which we feel it’s only right to defer to. Béatrice Kammerer
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    Don't worry, I've got a primitive/shepherd mix and a rescue dog, and you can definitely do things differently. Regardless of whether you’re talking about positive or negative reinforcement, being calm and confident helps a lot; working on frustration tolerance and socialisation is key too. I like it when a dog thinks through what they’re doing and figures out the solution for themselves. For instance, I always ask mine to sit before taking their leads off. I don't give out many treats, but this marks the end of the walk and I like rewarding them for being calm. Nowadays, I don't even have to say "sit"—they just do it automatically. I stop walking if they start pulling ahead on the lead, I make sure their needs for freedom are met, and most importantly, I don't let myself get stressed. I was the first to overthink everything when mine was a puppy, but I’ve realised that you can catch up on training at any age, whereas socialisation remains the most vital thing. For me, training = confidence in yourself and your dog, respecting their needs, and patience.
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    Unfortunately, some trainers still operate this way. Things are moving in the right direction, thankfully, but we’re not quite there yet. Don’t hesitate to speak up when something isn’t right or when a certain method doesn't sit well with you. Even if the trainer is likely to stick to their guns (as a "professional", they probably won't listen to a "student"), it will still have an impact on the other dog owners. (That story about the little Shiba... pff... that lady is going to have some serious trouble with her dog, and the reputation they have for being a "biting breed" will just be used as a convenient excuse.)
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    Hi, and a warm welcome to your new pup!

    Unfortunately, there are loads of so-called "dog training professionals" out there. I had a nightmare experience with Zheno when he was little; a "pro" turned up and shook him like a ragdoll. She got an absolute earful from me and I reported them to the RSPCA. There are limits to what you should put a dog through.

    Personally, I don't think using force gets you anywhere; I believe it’s all about working together.

    I’d actually suggest avoiding dog training clubs; you’re better off booking some one-to-one sessions and going on group walks with a friendly trainer (check the reviews online first). Honestly, for me, the club environment just isn't all it's cracked up to be.

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