Her behaviour towards my wife is completely different than with me

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Hi everyone, back at the end of October, my wife and I decided to adopt a young puppy (8 weeks old) — her mum was a Cane Corso and her dad a Staffy. Despite several power struggles with her (she’s quite a dominant character, and I’ve never given her an inch when it comes to training; I’m understanding if I feel it wasn’t on purpose, but firmer otherwise. By firm, I mean if she barks at me aggressively or does a wee right in front of me while staring me in the eye, I’d take her by the scruff of the neck and put her on her back with my palm on her throat and my hand over her muzzle. Mind you, this is without any force or violence; I speak sternly but without shouting). She follows my every command, both at home and on walks, she’s fully house-trained, hardly ever barks or growls, follows me everywhere and loves sitting between my legs or right next to me. She’s very playful, brings me her rope toy, and we do three or four 15-minute training sessions a day, along with play and plenty of cuddles. With my three-year-old son, even though he can be a bit rough with her sometimes (we’re working on that with him a lot), she is incredibly patient. If she’s had enough, she just gives him a little nudge to move him away and goes off to her own space. She’s very protective of him; she can’t stand anyone raising their voice at him, and if we even pretend to give him a smack, she steps in and growls. She doesn’t bite, but you can really tell she’s a dog that won’t tolerate any aggression.

The issue now is with my wife. As soon as I leave, the dog starts barking at her — I can even hear my wife shouting from outside. She growls at her regularly, and if I’m not there, she won’t listen to a word she says unless she senses my wife is about to reach breaking point and is at the end of her tether. When I get home, my wife is more exhausted by the dog than by our son. I honestly don’t know what to do about this. Is it up to me, as the master, to establish the hierarchy within our "pack" (and if so, how?), or is it up to my wife to work on this herself? For context, at the very beginning, she thought I was being too rough (the scruffing, putting the dog on her back with my hand on her throat and muzzle), but for the last fortnight, she’s been trying to do the same thing herself. The problem is, the dog just treats it as a game; it amuses her rather than setting any boundaries.

Thanks in advance, and sorry for the long post, but I think the more detail I provide about her environment, the better your advice will be! :D

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    You’ve definitely put her under too much pressure, with some major inconsistencies between cause and effect that likely would’ve led to long-term issues. Despite that, you’ve managed to build a decent bond, since she’s clearly looking for your contact and attention.

    Simply easing off that pressure and moving towards communication that actually makes sense to her—using simple cues that let her cooperate willingly—should make a massive difference to your relationship.

    I think the main thing to keep in mind is that your dog needs to CHOOSE to cooperate whenever possible, rather than being forced into it.

    To top it off, she comes from breeds that are particularly responsive! :-)

    On another note, she’s an athletic crossbreed, all muscle, with a real need for constructive physical and mental outlets. If you let that pressure build up without giving her a way to "decompress", she won’t be in the right headspace to learn, and you can’t really blame her for that. Meeting a dog’s basic needs is a prerequisite before you can expect anything else from them.

    If your wife can’t manage many walks during her pregnancy, she can focus on play and short training sessions. Learning about and understanding their environment is one of the most rewarding things a dog can do. When a dog gets into "mischief", it’s usually just them trying to burn off energy in their own way. By giving her a constructive way to use that energy, you’ll find the naughty behaviour disappears like magic. ^^

    Your wife could set some daily goals to work on for a few minutes at a time. Guiding your dog and seeing her progress is a real morale booster!

    On your end, make sure she meets as many other dogs as possible; it’s so important for any young dog, especially one that’ll have a jaw pressure of over 2,100 PSI (around 330 lbs per cm²) as an adult.

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    At first glance, it looks like it's off to a good start! ^^

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    Thanks for the advice, my wife and I had a chat yesterday (she admitted she finds it hard to assert herself when I’m around because I tend to be with Aïko a lot, playing, giving her cuddles and so on...), and I’ve been leaving my wife on the sidelines. When my wife calls her to play or anything else, the dog looks at me, looks at my wife, and hesitates. So, I left my wife and Aïko together and went to look after my son in his room. It went well; she asked Aïko "where's the rope?", "go fetch the rope", and the dog went to get it and they were able to play before having a cuddle. After that, I went back into the living room and let them carry on with the fuss. Then in the afternoon, I went to my neighbour's so Aïko could play with his dog (a 3-year-old Rottie, who is supposedly not great with other dogs but actually loves playing with Aïko; they get on brilliantly, even my neighbour was surprised :D). My neighbour watched my dog for a while and told me to let her off the lead often so she can interact with his dog, who is already trained, so she can socialise and let off some steam. He said it might help at home—just like kids going to see their mates to burn off energy, they’re more receptive once they get back home. As I said, I’ll give you all a proper update in a few weeks to keep you posted and make sure we’re still doing things right ^^ I’ve read all your replies carefully and I’m going to take everything on board. I already learned a lot last night about different aspects of puppy training within the family. Thanks a lot 😁
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    A good dog is a reliable dog,

    and a reliable dog is one that trusts its owner

    and obviously understands what is expected of them

    (provided these expectations are within their actual physical and intellectual capabilities).

    Your wife can teach her how to stay calm and wait (at mealtimes).

    The whole family needs to agree on and stick to certain rules.

    These rules should be taught using rewards (play, food, and especially plenty of praise).

    (The ‘alpha roll’ is like a symbolic death sentence. A dog would have to have committed an absolute crime to be subjected to that!)

    When she’s alone with your wife, she pesters her to play. Play is an essential need for the healthy development of any young mammal,

    and you MUST play with a young dog, but it’s up to the human to decide when, where, and how:

    your wife should walk away and leave her for a couple of minutes when the dog starts pestering, but then come back with a toy and suggest a quick game of tug-of-war or something else the puppy will love. This will actually help her understand that humans won’t tolerate a certain level of overexcitement, as she’ll just be left all on her own the moment she crosses the line.

    She shouldn’t try to go it alone with the training; it really is a family effort.

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    I agree with @Emla; a leader doesn't assert themselves through force. She isn’t even 5 months old yet, so it would indeed be surprising if she were aggressive towards strangers in the street, but the "teenage" phase is going to start in a few months and she’s already showing behaviour that few puppies display before 7 or 8 months. Tiny dogs weighing about 4.5 lbs sometimes lead a whole pack, and none of them pin the others on their backs. It’s all about asserting yourself; posture, voice, and self-confidence are vital, whether you’re 5 foot or 6 foot 6. Look, if she’s still behaving like this in two months' time, there won't be many people left who can actually pin her on her back, so what do we do then? There are other ways to establish authority. Managing a dog's frustration and having a solid "stop" command are vital at this age. Mealtimes are a great exercise because the dog has to show they can be calm to get what they want. Play can help too: "if you behave, I’ll play with you; if you misbehave, the toy gets put away and we’ll try again later." You absolutely have to be more headstrong than your dog. Personally, I use "time-outs" too, but in my own way—when my dog misbehaves, I tell him to stay in a separate room with the door open. He has a specific command telling him to stop, and if he breaks it, he goes back to his spot until he’s calm. It’s a way of saying "I’m the one in charge of the space." This obviously means teaching the command beforehand, and I should add that now he’s 7, I don't really use it anymore (except maybe once a year during a training session for a bit of fun), but it was very useful at the start. No shouting, ever. I’d even say I barely need to speak. I actually know a trainer—just to show it’s possible—who challenged himself to train a dog for the first six months of its life without any verbal commands at all. The idea was to communicate more through posture and gestures to be easily understood, and only then did he start introducing verbal cues, but still very sparingly. If you lose your cool with a dog, that’s when things get complicated. Maybe challenge your wife to get the dog to obey using as few verbal commands as possible. And don't hesitate to take a breather if you’ve had enough; it’s not worth getting worked up when you feel like you’re at your wits’ end. It’s important to listen to yourself as well as the dog. Quality bonding time is essential—if the dog behaves, they get that moment; if they don't, they don't. I get the impression that because you used force at the start, you didn't give her the choice to manage her own frustration, so now she’s taking it all out on your wife, who is less assertive. Training isn't really a power struggle; it’s often a game of managing frustration. The dog has to use their brain to figure out the right behaviour and think, "This person has the answer."
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    So the discussion isn’t pointless after all; I was wrong 🙏🏼.

    Those methods did exist in the past, but they’re definitely out of fashion now... a dog’s place in the family has evolved. They aren’t kept outside anymore; they live in our homes. They aren't just there to guard the garden; they go for off-lead walks... and we no longer believe a dog is born aggressive or that they’re a "lost cause"...

    Our expectations have changed, so the way we train them to get the results we want has evolved too.

    I don’t think you have to be "purely positive" all the time either; there’s a happy medium. As a woman, I don't physically dominate my dogs. Instead, I use my temperament, my body language, and my persistence to get what I want. But this kind of training takes real commitment, so your wife really does need to get involved every day. This means things like giving the dog her dinner (calmly, after a "sit"), going for walks, and doing little 10-minute training sessions with treats and plenty of fuss, etc.

    Basically what you’re already doing, but without the alpha rolls and that sort of thing 😉.

    If we look at how a pack actually behaves (even though dogs aren't wild animals!), hierarchy isn't won through brute force. It's about competence: being able to provide food, security (the environment: shelter, protection from rivals...), and maintaining balance and peace within the group.

    Stopping your son when he’s pestering the dog shows her that you can protect her and keep the peace. You’re earning your place as the leader, without using any violence 😉.

    Beyond that, you need to observe the dog closely to read her behaviour. She might growl during play, or she might not; she might bark out of excitement or fear; she might nip to get attention or to test her strength... observation is key. It’s what helps you understand what’s going on in her head and tells you what to do to get the result you want.

    It’s been mentioned already, but those times she peed while looking at you might have been out of fear rather than defiance. If you scold her, it’ll only make the problem worse if fear was the cause... which is why it's so important to understand the root of the behaviour.

    The easiest thing would be for your wife to take charge of the food: she puts the bowl down, she hands out the treats (including giving them directly to the dog), she fills the water bowl...

    I know it’s a bit old-fashioned—the wife in the kitchen and the husband out with the chainsaw 🤣—but it’s just so she can build a bond easily, especially since she might not feel comfortable doing other activities with the dog yet. When she’s on her own, there’s nothing stopping her from giving a treat when she tells the dog "on your bed" and she actually does it.

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    Thanks Kikaah, I'll have a chat with her so we can get organised, and I'll post an update on the forum regarding any changes. As my wife is three months pregnant, she’s been struggling with morning sickness and nausea, so going out for walks is quite tricky—not to mention the mood swings! ^^ However, you’re right; mealtimes are just as important for a puppy as they are for a child. My son also regularly lets her out when she needs to go, sometimes feeds her, and plays with her (always under supervision, I should add—though I’m usually watching the little one more than the dog, lol!). That probably explains the bond they have; I’m sure if my wife were more involved, it would definitely help. I've been watching some videos by a dog trainer on YouTube (Pauline Debarbat) which I've found very informative, so I'll look into that a bit more. Thanks again for your helpful replies! :)
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    Anyone can get things wrong, even professionals who’ve had dogs for years. Nowadays, everything is being questioned; we just don't look at the human-dog relationship the same way anymore. Have a look online at topics like dog-human dominance, the pack, training... Your wife should get more involved with the dog—feeding him, playing with him, and taking him out (one day out in the countryside with you, and the next day it’s her turn ^^).
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    I didn’t realise I’d messed up her training quite this badly... it was a close friend who’s a dog behaviourist and breeder (her whole family works in dog training, so I trusted her) who advised us to go down this route. According to her, I should’ve actually been even firmer; she explained that in a pack, if a puppy oversteps the mark, the others will pin it on its back and hold it by the throat until it calms down to show that the behaviour isn't acceptable, and that we should do the same... Plus, I’ve always lived with big dogs, especially mastiff-types, and my dad used to do the same, so I thought it was just the right thing to do. I’m asking for advice and I’m all ears; my goal in coming here is to learn from a community that knows their stuff (other than my friend). It’s true I didn’t mention that this was advice from someone who’s supposed to be (and I emphasise *supposed to be*) a reliable pro in dog training, but there’s no need to be so aggressive. I’m really questioning the way I do things now. It’s been three weeks since I stopped that kind of behaviour and started trying the positive reinforcement methods some of you mentioned, which I found online. I give her loads of praise when she does well, and when she does something wrong, I just have to give her a stern look and she slopes off with her head down (though with the cold lately, she tends to just head for her bed). My wife, however, has started picking up my old habits because Aïko and I are very close now and we thought it was maybe due to that initial "firm" training. Looking at the comments, we’re clearly completely wrong... we’ve probably become closer since I changed my attitude and I just didn't realise it. My initial approach was a massive mistake. @Kikaah: My wife doesn’t play with her much, maybe 10-15 minutes a day. I handle the walks; I live in the mountains so Aïko gets to run off-lead through the scrubland with me at least every couple of days (sometimes I take her fishing at the river too, on the advice of my neighbour who has a Rottie – he reckons she needs me to show her I trust her enough to let her do her own thing). There are no issues at all, her recall is great, and she’s not aggressive towards people or other animals; if anything, she’s always looking for cuddles! ^^ Other than that, my wife doesn't really do any proper exercise with her, but she gives her plenty of cuddles, no problem there.
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    I’m going to debunk a common myth here—you’ve got a pretty easy-going and lovely girl on your hands if you haven't been bitten yet. Often, the dogs who are treated harshly but don’t snap back are actually the sweetest souls. I don't think my Northern breed would've put up with it, and I dread to think what would happen with a Shar Pei, Chow Chow, or American Akita. Funnily enough, you see a lot more female owners with those breeds, even though they're known for being quite a handful, but most of them turn out well-adjusted because the owners keep up with the socialisation and so on. Mastiff-types are such gentle giants—far too kind for their own good, unfortunately. It’s worth saying they really are incredible, lovely dogs, but they can be a bit slow to mature. On the flip side, it’s often the dogs with strong temperaments that have the fewest issues, because the owner has no choice but to rethink their approach quickly. Those dogs won't spend ten years growling to warn an owner who isn't behaving properly. With Mastiff-types, it's the opposite; they give so many warnings that they eventually reach a point of "behavioural extinction" where they just stop. Then, if they do bite one day, people say, "I don't understand it, he was so gentle." In reality, he’d been giving warnings for the first few years of his life but wasn't listened to, until one day he’s had enough and bites without warning. If every dog could just say "piss off" right away, fewer people would act like such tough guys. Regardless, it’s very dangerous. Your wife can count herself lucky that the dog is still communicating with her; she’s probably the one least at risk of a sudden attack from her for the time being.
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