Border Collie nipping people on walks

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Hello,

I'm feeling completely helpless and desperate, so I'm posting here in the hopes of finding some answers and, more importantly, some effective tips.

I have an 18-month-old female Border Collie. Until she was about 10-12 months old, her only obsession on walks was chasing cars. For several months now, she’s found a new hobby: she lunges at people walking by and nips or bites their calf, thigh, or hand. This morning, she nipped a child of about ten on the thigh, and it was so hard that the poor lad was marked even through his ski trousers...

I’m at my wits' end because I really feel like my dog has everything she needs to be happy and settled:

- She goes out every day for at least an hour and runs off-lead. She runs with me 4 to 6 times a week for between 1 and 3 hours at a time. I let her roam off-lead as much as possible, but I make sure to keep her on the lead in busy areas and as soon as I spot someone walking in the distance. When I do pass someone, I have to hold the lead extremely tight, otherwise the dog growls nastily and jumps at people to nip them.

- She plays with us a lot in the garden or in the house.

- We have a fenced-off garden of about 1,000 square metres (nearly a quarter of an acre) where she can let off steam whenever she wants.

- We have set strict rules which she follows (the lounge area with the sofa and rug are strictly out of bounds, as are the vegetable patch and the bedroom).

She is a lovely dog and generally quite obedient... well, when she feels like it! She tends to be stubborn and just does her own thing when she's focused on an activity, like chasing an animal in the woods or hunting for moles in a field. We are working on obedience during these moments of extreme excitement on the advice of a dog trainer, but it’s a long, hard slog. I have, however, noticed some progress over the last few weeks.

To finish this long explanation (sorry!), I should mention that we’ve seen three different trainers since we got our dog: one session when she was a puppy as she’s our first dog, then a session to try and sort the car-chasing (no results), and finally, more recently, a session for the problem with her being aggressive towards people we pass on walks (again, no results).

I’m now at the point where I’m ready to invest in a muzzle just so I can let her off-lead without the risk of her hurting someone. But obviously, that isn’t a real solution because it won’t solve the underlying issue.

Thanks in advance for your help.

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    @Marie4pat how are things looking a year on? I’ve just come across your posts while doing some research as my 9-month-old Border Collie is showing this kind of behaviour towards walkers and cyclists we pass... I’d love to know if you’ve managed to sort the issue with your dog and what you did to get there?

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    Kikaah
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    No, I’ve got the solution – follow this link: http://takemeforamug.com 😈

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    You can find videos on YouTube of "goose herding" specifically for Borders. It’s not exactly fair on the geese, but they’re much easier to keep in your garden than sheep, and the dog will absolutely love it as it satisfies his urge to put everyone back in their place 😁 Just make sure he doesn't kill the geese.
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    Gotta love a bit of competition! 😁

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    And what about chickens? Does it work for them too? 😋🐔

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    Docline
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    You can find videos on YouTube of goose herding specifically for Borders. It’s not very kind to the pair of geese, but they’re much easier to keep in your back garden than sheep! It’s a real passion for the dog, satisfying their urge to put everyone back in their place 😁
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    I can’t thank you all enough for all the advice! It’s so kind of you to take the time to help me out. Thank you, thank you, thank you! 🙏🏻 Kari loves doing scent work around the house. She’s actually pretty good at it, even when we hide her toy up high or under other objects. Since she was a puppy, we’ve been working on her 'on/off switch' during play, and she’s actually getting quite good at settling down quickly. It’s just much harder to manage outdoors when there are so many distractions like birds, deer, walkers, and cars – she finds them all far too exciting! I’m going to go back to basics because the description of how dogs follow 'sit' and 'down' commands sounds exactly like Kari! 😄 Training a dog to live happily alongside humans is definitely a challenge, but it’s so rewarding too! 🙂 It certainly teaches you patience... 😄
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    Another way to provide effective "mental stimulation" without over-exciting them is through scent work or tracking exercises. The simplest way to do this is to scatter their dinner (if they have dry food) in the grass in the garden and tell them to "find it!" This can keep them busy for a good 20 minutes, and using their nose has a naturally calming effect on dogs (lowering their heart rate, etc.). For something a bit more challenging, you can hide a toy in the garden—though obviously, she’ll need to have mastered the "find it" command first and understand what it is you want her to look for. The reason I'm focusing so much on keeping her calm versus letting her get worked up is that the behaviours you're describing, which we call "reactivity" in dog training (to movement in her case), are often made worse by high arousal and chronic stress. If your dog is always "switched on", on high alert, with her system flooded with adrenaline, she's going to react more easily (with a lower trigger threshold) and more intensely to those stimuli than if she were calm and relaxed. It’s this calm state that we need to encourage: through training (responding to cues) and a healthy routine (calming activities like scent work, teaching her to "settle" at home—in her bed, for example—and mental exercises done in the right environment, etc.).
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    Kainate
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    Yes, "mental stimulation" is vital for a Border Collie, and it can definitely involve learning "tricks".

    Focus on exercises that teach her self-control and concentration, rather than ones that get her all worked up. Keep in mind that during these sessions, her mindset (staying calm and focused) is more important than the actual result (like her successfully taking the washing out). So, stick to short sessions where she has the right attitude.

    All these tricks can be taught very easily (especially with a Border) using the concept of "shaping" (breaking down a complex behaviour into smaller, simpler steps that the dog offers naturally, which you then reward), with or without a clicker. It’s a bit too complex to explain exactly how to do it on a forum, but there are plenty of YouTube videos about it. Always keep the main goal in mind: it's not about learning the trick itself (you’re not trying to train a circus dog ^^), but about having a more settled, well-adjusted dog.

    I mention this because unfortunately, in some videos on the subject, you see dogs that are over-excited—barking, jumping up at their owners, completely fixated on treats, and cycling through their whole repertoire like robots (sit, down, beg, paw, etc.) without even listening to what their owner is asking. In my opinion, that's not a good working mindset, and it doesn't help the dog become more mentally stable. It’s better to do less and keep it simple, but do it properly :)

    To give you an idea, with my three-year-old dog, I’m currently going back to basics with "sit / stand / down". I could teach him much "funnier" tricks; he’s more than capable :)

    But I’d rather do a few things well.

    He’s known these commands since he was a few months old, but like a lot of dogs, he doesn't know them properly. By that, I mean if he’s sitting and you repeat "sit", he’ll lie down. If he’s lying down and you say "sit", he doesn’t understand, and usually just rests his head on the floor as if to say, "well, I’m already lying down". Basically, he "knows" the commands but can't properly distinguish between them. So instead of teaching him "funny" tricks, I’ve chosen to go back to basics, which actually makes him work his brain more (it forces him to concentrate to understand exactly which command I’m giving, so he doesn't just react on reflex but actually thinks about it). Because once again, it’s his mindset and cognitive abilities I’m trying to work on; the exercise itself is just an excuse :)

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    Kainate
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    I’ve never tried it myself, but I think Treibball is a great idea, as long as you don't just see it as a way to let your dog blow off steam (that could actually encourage her "addiction" to movement). It should really be about developing her impulse control and her response to stop cues.

    Basically, it’s only going to be beneficial if you pay close attention to her mindset during these sessions.

    If you let her get over-aroused during these games, to the point where she stops listening and becomes completely fixated or hypnotised by the balls, yapping and nipping at anything and everything... it won't help her.

    If you have the opportunity, I think herding is an even better activity because it’s more enriching and complex. A dog will naturally have to learn to control their behaviour better when dealing with real animals compared to just balls.

    When you mention she has trouble focusing on you, that’s also something to work on.

    At home, teach her to hold a command (a position like a sit, or making eye contact, etc.) no matter what’s happening around her.

    The principle is always the same: keep it progressive (gradually increasing the difficulty).

    Start by reinforcing a command (like 'sit') in a quiet environment with no distractions. Then, gradually introduce distractions into the scene. A ball rolling—slowly at first, then quickly. Have a friend help you by walking past calmly, and then once she’s comfortable, have them run. And so on. Break the training down so she isn’t failing too often; when I’m teaching my dogs, I usually set the difficulty so they have at least a 75% success rate, so they can effectively learn the right behaviours.

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