Issues with the protective collar

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Hi everyone,

I had my dog neutered on Friday and he's been wearing a cone ever since. As time goes on, it's getting harder and harder for both of us.

Last night at bedtime, he was crying (which he never usually does) and quite loudly too. This morning he was biting his lead and growling. I managed to get him to sit and let go after a couple of minutes without pushing too hard, as I didn't want to upset him further... but I have to admit, it's quite distressing to see.

The vet told me he must be on a lead for every walk because he might try to rub against wood to rip off the dressings or pull them off by jumping on something. Too risky, according to him.

So, walks aren't any fun at all right now.

I'm using a 5-metre retractable lead to give him a bit of space, but it's not enough; he runs for two seconds and that's it.

Whenever he comes near me—not even charging at me, but simply because there's quite a bit of space between his nose and the edge of the cone that he can't quite judge—he doesn't realise. He keeps bashing into me with the cone, and I'm covered in bruises. I'm having to keep my distance most of the time...

Other people we pass seem more standoffish than usual too.

Other dogs are avoiding him... (not that there are many around; I think with the cold weather, people aren't taking their dogs out as much).

It's tough, and it's going to be like this until next Wednesday :/

I bumped into a nurse this morning who told me he'd end up going stir-crazy, that I didn't need to keep it on him that long and could take it off as soon as tomorrow. But then again, if he rips out the stitches and we have to start all over again...

I don't know anything about dog clothing, do you? Is there something suitable out there? The vet said no, so I haven't looked into it as I figured he'd find it easier to get off (by tearing the fabric), whereas the cone is definitely effective, even if it is a pain...

I also thought about a muzzle, but I'm worried I'll just be swapping one problem for another.

How did you manage to make things a bit more comfortable for your dog if you've been through this too?

Thanks

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    He doesn't usually cry at all, but he started whining—not on the first day, but by the fourth.

    He’d been scratching at his neck ever since he’s had it on, but this morning (day 5), he was really going at it. For a whole hour, he was scratching and scratching and scratching so insistently; I think he just couldn’t stand the feel of the plastic anymore.

    He’s built up so much frustration and stress that if there’s a sudden noise, he jumps and his eyes go wide as he looks all over the place, which he doesn’t usually do either. And the more days go by, the more noticeable it becomes.

    He’s much less responsive to commands with the cone on. I’ve noticed it from the start—I even thought to myself, "this thing is making him go a bit thick."

    Common sense says we should just assume he’s coping fine? That there's no need to try and make him more comfortable because it's only for 12 days?

    I took it off him today and asked him to give paw; he did it immediately and very gently, just like before.

    As for the scratching, that’s stopped—he’s not going at it like a madman anymore.

    He is clearly much calmer, especially after an hour’s walk this afternoon. But even at midday, about half an hour after I took it off, you could tell he was clearly, clearly much more chilled out—in his posture, his expression, everything...

    I couldn’t find any pool noodles, so after doing some digging yesterday, I had the idea of using a human neck brace—just a basic one you can pick up at the chemist. I bodged it together as best I could and added some towels inside to pad it out, and it just about fastens.

    I wondered if he’d try to scratch his neck, but not at all.

    He tried to get it off at first, but since then, nothing.

    That said, I don’t think it’s secure enough; he might manage to get it off during the night, so I’ll put the cone back on for bedtime.

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    Er, no, I wasn't bothered by the cone. If I’d had to help him out several times a day then maybe, but it didn't take any effort at all. The noise it makes doesn't bother me in the slightest and I couldn’t care less about how it looks. So what is it that’s bothering me? Or what is it that others find more annoying than the dog does himself? The tension has been building day by day. For example, when he gives his paw, he stretches it right out, probably because he’s surprised he can't see the end of it like usual. He keeps putting it down and lifting it up really high several times in a row, with his claws out. He looks down but I don't think he can see what he's doing, and it's stressing him out. As the days go by, the urge — the actual need — to burn off some energy (running and jumping especially) is really showing. It's all building up. And you can tell by the way he moves. He's on edge. It’s not just a case of getting used to wearing the cone; it’s everything else that comes with it that he has to adapt to as well: wanting to scratch, but can’t, wanting to run, but can’t, wanting to grab toys or sticks, but he can’t or it’s a real struggle; he often has to fight for it, wanting to come for a cuddle and — bam — he ends up bumping into everyone. Because of that, everyone avoids him, and I do too, or at least I step out of the way before coming back to him. You clearly can't have a proper cuddle like usual with a cone on. Does he understand that? It’s just another thing he has to get used to. Basically, everything has changed for him. It's not just a matter of 'he'll get used to wearing the cone and that's that.' No, he's facing all sorts of difficulties without necessarily understanding any of it. Other dogs avoid him or growl at him — is he supposed to just get used to that too, when he’s used to playing with almost every dog we meet?
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    I was looking for something else when I stumbled across those rigid collars. They’re an alternative to the inflatable moon collars, but more like a neck brace for dogs.

    They looked a bit less restrictive than other options. You do need to plan ahead before the op, though – by the time you've ordered it and it arrives, it's probably not worth it if they’ve only got a couple of days left to wear it.

    Mind you, we shouldn't make too much of a drama out of it. It’s only for 12 or 15 days while the wound heals.

    As humans, we can put up with a cast, crutches or whatever for a few weeks. It’s a nuisance but it’s hardly torture. The dog will cope for a few days.

    I think it bothers the owner far more than the dog! They just get on with it.

    As for recovery suits, stay away from the pet shops! An old t-shirt with holes cut out or a baby grow (depending on the size) will be much cheaper and do the exact same job ;)

    My dog's breeder managed to find one that fit a female Dogue de Bordeaux, so I'm sure it's possible for any other breed...

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    At night, mine doesn't move much, if at all, but during the day it’s a right old racket here, I can tell you! It’s a real ear-splitter, though personally it doesn't bother me. I know he’s not doing it on purpose, but I think it gets on his nerves too; it's quite a lot for his poor ears to take :/ I've just had a look on a pool supplies website, and they only have one kind online (also available in-store). It looks quite thin and solid, so if that’s all they have, it won’t be right (I don’t see how I’d hollow it out, unless I slice it into rings like in the photo, which might be easier but still quite fiddly :p). I haven't had a proper look on Amazon yet, but at first glance, I haven't found the same model as the one in the photo. At the same time, I’m thinking that I’ll probably need to attach the 'donut' to the back of his collar so that the opening (where the strap goes inside the noodle) doesn't end up under his muzzle. I don't want him to be able to fiddle with the bandage. But the whole thing will probably rotate, I reckon... so that could be an issue. If the pool noodle is too thin, that’ll be a problem as well. If it’s medium or large, he might be able to chew on it, unless I work on that with him. What diameter do you think I should get? It’s hard to tell, especially if I have to settle for buying it online... I won’t be able to try it for size first.
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    👌Hiya!

    Yes, if it works and it’s more comfortable than that awful cone! Is it any quieter at night? My first dog, a Yugoslavian Shepherd, used to bang into the walls, poor thing...

    I was lucky with Volka, my first Lab, as she was so obedient; a simple knotted T-shirt was enough... along with a firm "no, leave it!".

    But with Oxane, my second Lab, in two months' time... I can sense a real struggle on the horizon...

    She’s a proper little tank, an ex-raptor!! Plus she’s as stubborn as a mule...

    See you later for an update.

    Give your pup some belly rubs from me!

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    I’ll try the pool shop first thing tomorrow! Thanks so much for the idea Doudou

    I’ll let you know how I get on ;)

    That’s also true Jazz, it’s definitely better safe than sorry in these cases, despite how uncomfortable it is :/

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    https://www.pinterest.fr/pin/AWoo34HpNEAfhAG7eB8JAeyHkW-yLwu9IYiCrhy52mnIb7oHA7rekds/ Haven't tried this yet, but I’m planning to give it a go for when my girl gets spayed. A pool noodle cut into pieces...

    https://i.pinimg.com/750x/28/15/0b/28150b3649e84a149b4a5a7af371af60.jpg

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    As for the recovery suits, they must make them for larger dogs because we went with that option for our previous dog, a Belgian Tervueren. However, our vet was the one who provided it, so I’m not sure what’s available in the shops...

    Regarding the healing time, my vet insisted on not having the stitches removed before 10 days ("better two days too many than two days too few," he told us 👍).

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    If it had healed in 5 days, I’m hoping it’ll be the same after 12 :)

    I’ve read that some vets leave the "wound" uncovered (as long as the dog is wearing a cone) so it heals better, but mine put a dressing on it too. It’s got me wondering now.

    Anyway, a shop assistant I spoke to this afternoon said she used to work at a dog rescue; she dealt with neutered dogs a lot and used to take their stitches out herself, usually after 10 days, sometimes less. She thought 12 days seemed like a long time.

    As for the recovery suit, I think my dog is too big for them.

    I tried to see what they had in stock (I went to two different shops) but they only had outfits for small dogs.

    They didn’t have any inflatable collars either :/

    I’ve looked into muzzles in the meantime and, as the shop assistant also told me, it won’t stop him rubbing his dressing/wound with it, or even licking it depending on the model. Besides, they aren't meant to be worn 24/7 anyway; they can’t breathe properly in them (they breathe better with their mouths wide open to pant).

    I took him to the local playing field and he immediately started running around like a mad thing ^^

    I kept throwing a toy for him to fetch so he could tear about and burn off some energy :)

    However, after 25 minutes, he started biting the long lead... really relentlessly :/

    This evening, I put it back on him for a walk on a path he knows well and bam, there he goes again, attacking the lead like a nutter the second I put it on. He was grabbing it at every point, in the middle and everywhere else; if he hadn’t been attached to it, I’d have just had to pick it up and put it away. If he’d bolted with it, I wouldn't have had an inch of lead to grab him by...

    If he keeps doing this tomorrow and over the next few days, it’s going to be a nightmare.

    On top of that, I have to watch his weight, so using treats to get him to let go... it worked this afternoon but he just started again straight after. I can’t be giving him treats every single minute.

    I ended up finishing both walks on a short lead, so we're back to square one 😔

    The thing is, he pulls a lot on the short lead. Not all the time (he can be calm for 15 minutes) but sometimes he pulls relentlessly. I can’t see myself doing two hours like that, but maybe it’s a good idea? I stop after about half an hour (sometimes a bit more), then take him out at least twice more for half an hour each time, plus short trips out for toilet breaks.

    Did yours not pull?

    Mine needs to jump and run to burn off steam, which is really hard to do on a short lead :/

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    Hi everyone, We went for a recovery suit that the vet gave us (they gave us the choice between that and a cone) and our little Bichon got on with it really well. The only downside was getting her coat looking good again afterwards because it ended up completely matted. The groomer spent well over an hour on her, but oh well... it was the lesser of two evils! 😁
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