Puppy pen at night?

So the method was just to put him in a crate? That’s the equipment, not the training technique, but fair enough. Have a good evening.

I’m trying to have a discussion with you to avoid a pointless row, which is why I’m asking you to explain your training method. You think the crate is a good thing, fine, but what have you been doing alongside it? Just putting the dog in a crate? No, I assume you’ve been doing some work with your dog? You say I need to respect people if I want a respectful exchange, but you’re misreading my intentions when I try to communicate. And I didn't say you were being disrespectful; I said if you *become*... I should have said if you *were to become*... You got a bit worked up telling me you didn't like my opinion, which is fine, I get that, but because I don’t want to change it or apologise or even, I don't know, be 'politically correct', you’re taking offence. I think it’s best we leave it there so as not to clutter this thread unnecessarily. On the other hand, I’d really like to know the method you’ve put in place to eventually stop using the crate. If I'm following you, it's just a tool, and isn't the point of a tool to be able to do without it in the end? I’m simply curious to learn. Read my first post again, you’ll find your answer there. Good evening.

I see things aren't getting any better over in Brittany.

I’m trying to talk this through with you to avoid any unnecessary conflict. I’m actually asking you to explain your training method. You think the crate is a good thing, fair enough, but what have you been doing alongside it? Just putting the dog in a crate? No, I assume you’ve been working with your dog? You say that I should respect people if I want respectful exchanges, but you’re misinterpreting me when I try to communicate with you. And I didn't say you were being disrespectful; I said "if you become"—I probably should have said "if you were to become"... You got a bit worked up, telling me that you didn’t like my opinion. Fine, I understand that, but just because I won’t change my mind or apologise or even, I don't know, be "politically correct", you’ve taken offence. I think it’s best to leave it there so we don’t clutter this thread unnecessarily. However, I would really like to know what method you’ve put in place to eventually move away from using the crate. If I’m hearing you right, it’s just a tool—and isn’t the point of a tool to be able to do without it in the end? I’m genuinely just curious to learn.

Look, Axxx, I wasn't putting you down. I was just saying that using a crate is the easy option. You have to admit that crating a dog just to avoid cleaning up wee or dealing with destruction is definitely easier than having to mop up when you get back... It's taking the easy way out and it's often a way to avoid the hassle. I still maintain that if there's no proper groundwork other than the crate, it's only for people who don't want to take the time to respect the animal's nature. If you've actually done the groundwork, then fair play to you, but blindly encouraging crating without explaining the training that needs to go with it is a bit of a simplistic way to describe your method, isn't it? It would be constructive if you could explain what training you've put in place alongside the crate. And if you're going to get aggressive or disrespectful just because I won't back down or suck up to you, then we're going to have a problem, because that's just not my style. I'm sorry, but I really don't understand you. I answered the question by explaining why I think crates are good. You've expressed your disagreement—fine. I simply said that was YOUR opinion and that others might not agree. And now I'm being aggressive or disrespectful?! Erm, excuse me? Haha (if it's my use of capital letters that makes you think that, you've got the wrong end of the stick). Besides, you even went as far as sending me a DM to tell me once again that you didn't agree with me. We get the message, don't we?

No, don’t apologise for going off-topic, Urh Zae; the subject of the cage would have been brought up sooner or later anyway 🙂 And no need to talk, so what’s your take on it then?