3-month-old Australian Shepherd puppy — rebellious / aggressive

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Hello everyone,

I'm writing here because I've had an Australian Shepherd puppy at home for just over a month now.

My partner and I got him at 2 months (and about a week) old.

For a little while now, he's been completely kicking off at me whenever I tell him off:

Jumping on the sofa and being told no — for example.

At first he'd just bark at me from the floor, but now he's started snapping.

He just goes completely out of control. He jumps at me, barks in my face, growls, and snaps.

I've been seeing a dog trainer and we've been having lessons with her. During one session, she put some food at my feet and told me to pinch him if he went for it. When I did, he kicked off. When she saw that, she told me "that calls for immediate submission" — basically, when he reacts like that, I need to hold him by the scruff of his neck until he submits (without pressing, just holding). So I've been trying to apply that, but it honestly feels like it's getting worse. It can easily go on for a whole hour before he gives in.

Yesterday I let out a firm, deep "NO" — the puppy immediately went into submission, wagging his tail, and came back to me belly to the ground... with a little bark at the end, mind you.

Today the big authoritative "NO" barely works anymore and he still rebels.

I feel like a terrible owner when I have to hold him into submission, but in those moments he just doesn't listen to me at all. Nothing works.

I did raise my concerns with the trainer, saying I was worried about making him aggressive, but she reassured me that it just puts him back in his place.

Tonight and tomorrow I'm looking after a friend's Border Collie at mine alongside him, and he's been aggressive towards him too at times. I've already managed to head off 2 fights by calming them both down and telling them off, but I'm feeling a bit disheartened right now.

Worth mentioning that with my partner, he never kicks off anywhere near as badly — he might bark, but if my partner stands up or raises his voice, he submits straight away.

So clearly the problem is coming from me — at the start I used to pick him up a lot and let him on the sofa when he'd sit and wait for the "come on then", so I've probably given him too much freedom in the house and he's stopped respecting me. But the more I make him submit, the more I worry I'm going to lose his trust completely. He even growls at me when I come near him while he's chewing a bone now. Although weirdly, with his food bowl I can tell him to stop and he will.

Any advice would be massively appreciated.

I've also tried time-outs instead of the submission hold when he kicks off, but even if he comes back calm, he's straight back to it the next time I tell him off.

#getting bullied by a puppy basically 🤣

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    This little shepherd is already scared of your partner, and you want him to be afraid of you too?

    That’s not my idea of what a relationship with a dog should look like...

    It feels like you’re wasting a lot of energy on "problems" that aren't really issues and would probably sort themselves out if you stopped focusing on them so much.

    Just get out there and go for walks with the pup, share plenty of fun experiences with him, play together and let him play off-lead with lots of other dogs. Build that bond by playing, running around and showing him all sorts of great places; he’ll start paying attention to what you want and you won’t have to keep saying "no" dozens of times a day!!

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    Oops, I hadn't realised Kikaah had already replied ^^'

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    Sorry, but my advice: find a new trainer straight away!!
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    Why try to dominate your puppy when you can just teach him using encouragement and praise? If he gets on the sofa, teach him to get down by offering a toy, giving him a massive fuss when he hops off, or spending some time cuddling with him on the floor… You should find a new trainer; the days of thinking a dog is trying to "dominate" its owner are long gone. If your pup is pushing back because you’ve suddenly banned the sofa, that’s completely normal since you’ve allowed it up until now. You just need to be consistent – if you allow something, you can't just change the rules halfway through, otherwise the puppy won't understand what's going on. As for the bone, it’s a high-value resource. Let him eat it in peace in his own space so he doesn't start to feel wary of you. No, your puppy isn't "bullying" you (if anything, it’s the other way around right now); he simply doesn’t understand what you expect from him. Teach him through play, reward him with plenty of attention, and avoid scolding or trying to force him into submission. Instead, find a way to get through to him using a gentle approach… Australian Shepherds are devoted to their owners. If you stay consistent with the house rules and work on building that bond, there’s no reason it won’t work out! :)
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