Unspayed cat eating food for neutered cats

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Hi there,

I was wondering if you give dry food meant for neutered cats to a female cat that hasn't been spayed yet, is it normal for her to keep meowing and rubbing against the sofa?

A friend's cat is doing this and it’s as if she’s in season; I’d like to know if it could be related to the dry food, especially since she was just in heat not long ago.

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  • Blue_Cat
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    @Fox

    Just a quick thought from my side: on a forum like this, it’s much more helpful to know whether we’re talking to a man or a woman (you’re male, got it), their age, whether they have any pets – and if so, how many and what species – and which country the poster is based in (due to differences in local laws). This isn't confidential information; it’s just practical so we know exactly who we’re taking the time and effort to reply to, especially when those responses end up being quite long.

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    Fox76
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    I'm not entirely sure, but I might not be right – mind you, I’m not necessarily wrong either, don’t you think? 🤷

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    Yuna La Ficelle
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    I figured as much 😂
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    Fox76
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    Rightly or wrongly...

    https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=GCTuXHW5vl4

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    Yuna La Ficelle
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    You sound more like someone who’s got an axe to grind 😂 (and not much else to do...) “If there were fewer aggressive people who insist on being right even when they’re wrong and spark pointless, time-consuming debates, I’d probably contribute a bit more often.” I wasn’t being aggressive until I got called an idiot! You’re the one having the pointless debate; it’s my time that’s being wasted. As for your input, we can do perfectly well without it, thanks! Right then, I’m blocking you now.... Oh wait, you can’t 😡
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    You clearly don't know the first thing about cats if you're unaware that a young female can get pregnant at around 4 months old – and that’s the norm, not the exception.

    If I type "age of a cat's first heat" into Google, the first result says:

    "Female cats typically come into season in the spring and autumn, and this period can last from a few days to several weeks. Usually, cats have their first heat at around 6 months old; however, some can have them as early as 4 months."

    Oh, look at that – for them, 6 months is the rule and 4 months is the exception?! Let's see what the following links say…:

    - "The first season occurs between 4 and 12 months of age."

    - "A female cat reaches puberty at around 7 months on average."

    - "In cats, the first heat occurs between 6 and 9 months."

    - "The average age for the first season is between 6 and 10 months."

    - "Heat cycles appear for the first time at around 6 months old."

    - "Heat cycles begin between 6 and 9 months of age."

    It looks like the entire internet – except for you – knows absolutely nothing about cats! And yet, Google displays the most credible sites first.

    Or maybe you're just wrong, and 6 months is indeed the norm while 4 months is the exception, not the other way around…

    Maybe you've only ever owned Siamese or Burmese cats, if you think it's the opposite? (see my reply to @Blue Cat)

    it’s not a question of climate, temperature, or daylight hours affecting the breeding period; it’s essentially and solely down to access to resources. By feeding cats all year round, that’s why there isn't really a breeding season anymore, and that applies to stray cats too

    I feed the strays even more in the winter than in the summer – in winter they have as much as they can eat, wet food and dry food – and yet the females I feed are still in a 'sexual rest' period from September to January. It’s a matter of climate and daylight hours; it has nothing to do with access to resources.

    they no longer have a specific season and there are winter litters, but sadly, it often ends badly for the kittens and frequently for the mother

    No: stray cats do not have litters from November to February.

    Have you even read the link I gave you? Apparently not… Or do you also reckon that the scientists and researchers specialising in cats are idiots who know nothing and just talk rubbish?

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    @Gridin, if it’s all the same to you, let’s just drop it and move on.

    I’m happy for us not to fall out, but I’m not moving on without giving you an answer.

    You're the one talking rubbish now; stop digging up a two-year-old thread just to insult the people posting.

    I didn’t bump this thread just to insult the posters, not at all.

    I really wonder what kind of person joins this site six years ago, posts nothing for six years, and then comes out of the woodwork to bring up a thread this old.

    If there were fewer aggressive people who are desperate to be right even when they’re wrong, sparking pointless, time-wasting arguments, I’d probably post a bit more often.

    Shout, insult people, bang your fist on the table if you like.

    I have absolutely no desire to shout or bang my fist on the table. As for the insults, I’ll admit a few choice words came to mind while reading your post, but it takes a lot more than that for me to actually start insulting someone.

    "I’ve been looking after stray cats in my area for years" blah blah blah. You’re not the only one.

    Where did I say I was the only one? I know perfectly well I’m not, and thank goodness for that!

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    Just so you know, my Siamese's mum fell pregnant at 4 and a half months old. The breeder wasn't on the lookout for it. Rubbish... It's quite shocking for a breeder not to know the specific traits of the cats she’s breeding and selling! Siamese are one of those rare 'early' breeds (I only know of two, Siamese and Burmese, but there might be others) where the females can reach sexual maturity at around 4 months instead of the usual 6 to 9 months. But did she really not know and just get caught out? Or was it just an excuse she gave you to cover her back? Far too many breeders are unscrupulous and have no qualms about breeding from mums who are far too young, just so they have more kittens to sell all year round!
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    Yuna La Ficelle
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    Sorry, I’m replying to this thread again—I know it'll bump the post, but that's not my intention and I'm definitely not trying to start an argument. I just remembered something that didn't quite sit right with me.

    When we talk about the seasonality of animals being in heat, our first instinct is to think about the climate—winter temperatures, the cold, wind, snow...

    And on the flip side, when people say that indoor cats no longer have seasonal heat cycles but instead are in heat almost constantly, we assume it’s because it’s warm indoors. The logic being that we’ve altered their natural cycle by providing them with constant comfort—but that’s actually not true! Or at least, it’s not the right conclusion to draw.

    Actually, it’s not a matter of climate, temperature, or day length changing the breeding season; it’s essentially and solely down to access to resources. By feeding cats all year round, we’ve caused the breeding season to pretty much disappear. This also applies to stray cats (who live off human activity, which is different from truly feral cats)—they no longer have a specific season and you get winter litters. Sadly, this often ends badly for the kittens and frequently for the mum as well (basically, she might make it through her first or second winter, but the more winters she sees, the tougher it gets...).

    So there we go 😎

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    Yuna La Ficelle
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    Thanks bluecat. @Gridin, if you're alright with it, let's just drop this and move on. In the end, what really wound me up was being called an idiot, but you couldn't have known it was me since I’m showing as a "former user," so you weren't actually trying to push my buttons, even if that's how I took it. If you don't mind, let's put it behind us and start over on the right foot. If you look after stray cats, then we’re far more likely to get along than to fall out. Things don't always have to escalate; it’s a choice. I’m choosing not to let this bad first impression get in the way! 😀 See you around on Wamiz!
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