My cat has moved her kittens, she’s meowing and won’t stay with them

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Hi everyone,

So, I’ve been browsing your site/forum for a few days now, and it’s been really helpful for answering some questions I had. But right now, I really need some individual advice.

Here’s the story from the beginning:

Our cat Luna, whom we adopted after she was found at a motorway services, got pregnant. We were supposed to get her spayed, but unfortunately, someone let her out by mistake during her first heat.

Last Tuesday marked 60 days since she’d conceived. On Thursday morning around 3:30 am (just as we were getting back from a night out), she was waiting for us, followed us everywhere, and eventually settled on the bed to have her first contractions. We tried to put her in the spot we’d prepared for her (towels, dim light, a little nook), but she wasn’t having any of it. She spent three hours having contractions almost on my lap. We were surprised because we’d been told that cats look for an isolated spot to give birth. But she seemed anxious and was reassured by my presence, my stroking, etc. At 6:30 am the first baby arrived, then the second and third about fifteen minutes apart. The fourth came an hour later. She looked exhausted, tried to sleep a bit, and with our encouragement, she finally had the fourth and the fifth.

She did everything exactly as she should: broke the sacs, licked the babies so they could breathe, ate the placentas... After a while, we moved her and the babies into a nesting box. She let us touch them without any trouble. I stayed with her all day, and when I tried to go and get something to eat, she meowed at me looking worried, followed me downstairs, and meowed at me very loudly. When I made a move to go back up to the bedroom, she stopped at every step to check I was following. I concluded that she was anxious, scared of being alone with her little ones.

After a while, we ignored her meowing and she eventually went back to her babies. Phew! Especially since we had to go away for the weekend on the Friday evening. When we got back, everything was fine; the 5 babies were in great shape and so was Luna. But every so often, she starts meowing very loudly while looking at us, as if she’s trying to make us understand something. Sometimes she goes out into the garden and leaves her babies (I’m not sure exactly how long for), and sometimes we get the impression she’s panicking. This morning, with the babies being 5 days old, she left them alone and started meowing again.

To make her understand she needed to look after her babies, I picked one up. She meowed at me, grabbed it, and moved it to a different spot. She put it under a bedside table that has a cloth over it reaching down to the floor—as if she wanted to hide it. Then after fifteen minutes, she moved all the babies over there. But then she left them alone. They meow and call for her, but she just comes and meows while looking at me. I’ve checked that she still has milk, and she seemingly does. She has dry food and water available. I also noticed this morning that she had some dried blood on her fur around her vulva. Is it normal for her to still have some discharge 5 days after giving birth?

Sorry for the wall of text, but I really wanted you to know how the birth went, seeing as she didn't act in a typical way from the start. I hope you can give me some information and, above all, reassure me. She’s just gone back to her babies this second; they’re nursing. I’m probably worrying over nothing, but I’d rather do too much than not enough. It’s like she’s having new-mum panic attacks, realising she has 5 babies to look after, getting scared and abandoning them for a bit, before changing her mind later on...

Thanks in advance

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    Spaying female cats isn't just some fad or a disease: it’s quite simply a necessity! Either you get a cat with everything that comes with it (breeding, wandering off...)

    Or you just don't get one at all and buy yourself a robot instead.

    "(unless, of course, they are pedigree cats registered with the GCCF)": oh, so now "moggies" don’t have the right to live anymore?

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    Oh, hello! It’s been ages since I last saw one of your posts, P'tite Fleur. Lovely to say hi in passing. Perhaps we’ll have the chance to cross paths on another thread for a good old debate. Not here, though – I think, unfortunately, we’re in complete agreement...
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    You only have to look at all the kittens in the shelters, local charities and the RSPCA, and all those whose owners just dump them by the roadside or in the middle of a field... So, definitely yes to getting cats spayed, for their own well-being and to help tackle the overcrowding in rescue centres that are already at breaking point...
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    Right. This topic pops up every now and then, and usually, we could just let it lie, but we really must get back to @Lilacat, especially considering how young she is.

    Neutering or spaying cats isn't just a trend or some kind of illness: it's quite simply a necessity! (Except, of course, for pedigree cats registered with the GCCF).

    You say you don't think it's good for animals, or even that it's the opposite. We can forgive you for saying that since you're only 11. You also mentioned that kittens are "easy" to rehome.

    I’d suggest you do a bit of research. Not just on forums, but in articles about cats or even books on the subject. You might think people on forums are just talking rubbish (which, to be fair, is sometimes true...), but I’d hope you can trust specialist articles or books written by experts. And they will all advise you to have your cat neutered. There are plenty of excellent reasons for it: cats will roam less and won't go as far if they do go outside. And even an indoor cat is a potential escape artist—it only takes one slip-up! Male cats "spray" to mark their territory, which means a very smelly kind of urine. Female cats in heat become incredibly clingy and can howl quite unpleasantly; plus, you’ll have to deal with every stray tomcat in the neighbourhood hanging around your door. Most importantly, it prevents certain cancers. For a cat’s health, it undeniably prevents a lot of trouble, and on the other hand, there are absolutely no downsides.

    So, there we go. You’ll likely get other replies with even more details.

    As for kittens being easy to find homes for, that's not strictly true. First of all, there are already so many in animal rescues and shelters. Secondly, can you really be sure that the people taking your kittens will be good owners? We all know kittens are absolutely adorable—there’s no doubt about that. But even if you find people interested (which isn't always the case), what will happen to those kittens in six months or a year, once the novelty of a wide-eyed little kitten has worn off?

    No, you can be absolutely sure that neutering cats should be encouraged. It's not just some trendy fad.

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    WHY is everyone so obsessed with this craze for neutering??????????????

    It’s so easy to rehome kittens. For example, my cat hasn't even had her litter yet and I’ve already got three people who want one!

    I don’t believe it does anything for the animals' well-being, QUITE THE OPPOSITE!

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    YOU MUSTN'T TOUCH THE KITTENS UNTIL THE FIRST WEEK IS OVER!

    She might abandon them!

    Maybe the kittens have allergies and she can sense it, so she’s trying to let you know?

    Mind you, I’m no expert... my cat is having her first litter in about five days, so I’m just getting ready...

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    "Anyway, I've got a question: Do you still have the babies?"

    Erm, has she really kept the kittens for 811 days... blimey...

    Stop bumping old threads!!!!!

    And have you ever heard of getting your cat spayed??????

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    It was the same for us with our cat; she’s a year and a half old and she gave birth four weeks ago now. She did exactly what yours did—she settled herself on my bed to have them. She had the first one, then the second, then the third, and then an hour later, the fourth one arrived. Later that night while we were asleep, we put the blanket (the one she’d had the kittens on) on the floor, and she had a fifth one! Everything went fine, but we had quite a surprise in the morning! We saw five kittens instead of four. Since then, she’s been picking them up and moving them under the kitchen units, next to the washing machine and so on... We weren't sure what to do, but the cardboard box was on top of the washing machine, so we moved it to the floor and she’s stopped moving them now. Maybe the height was bothering her. I let her go outside because the "grandma" cat (who’s had litters before) looks after them while she’s out for a stroll or having something to eat, and then they swap roles. :) Then she goes back to them and her mum goes off to eat, and so on... Anyway, I’ve got a question: do you still have the kittens?
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    It seems to be the latest trend to dig up old threads!!!!
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    I was just about to say that!!!

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