Dispute with the breeder

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Hi, I'm looking for advice on what to do about a breeder who isn't replying to my messages.

I reserved a puppy remotely via social media. I’d been following my pup’s progress every day since she was born, and I paid the deposit after a few days. When I stopped seeing my dog on their livestreams, I asked the breeder where she was. They told me she’d had a bit of a problem but that they were sorting it. I asked for photos and daily updates on her health and development. The breeder was supposed to video call us that same evening so we could see the pup, but the call never happened. Suddenly, they had an 'internet outage', which somehow didn’t stop them from posting videos on their site or doing livestreams from outside their home. After numerous phone calls and messages went unanswered, they finally admitted that my puppy had died from her injuries – she’d been bitten by other puppies at the breeder’s, which damaged her tendons and nerves. After several operations, she developed septicaemia. I’ve been patient. I was offered another puppy from a future litter or a refund; I chose the refund. Since then, they still aren't replying to my messages. They read them, but that's it. I even suggested they could pay me back in instalments if that would help them, but still nothing from their side. Regarding my messages saying I’m waiting for a response, I’ve heard of similar situations where they’ve gone quiet on other buyers after a problem with a puppy, so I think this is just how they operate. I don't know what to do. They call themselves professionals. They even had an issue themselves when buying a pup from a breeder and had the nerve to call them out – they have no shame. I’d like to know what the legal timeframe for a refund is, considering it will be a month on 4th July since my dog died and I’d already paid for her in full. Thanks for your help.

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  • Leeleebijou
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    Hi, I’d recommend sending a formal letter of demand for the refund by recorded delivery. Good luck.
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    Tania28
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    Is this breeder near you?
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    Tania28
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    Ah, my post is being reviewed...

    Legally speaking, it seems the death of the puppy makes the sale impossible—a case of "force majeure". You are well within your rights to demand a death certificate issued by the vet as proof.

    You should send a letter via recorded delivery requesting a full refund and pointing out that the sale is now void.

    One last thing: could this be a scam? They’re very common on social media. You should report it to the police or Action Fraud. They might be able to take action if fraud is proven. Report the account on the social media platform as well if that’s the case...

    Mediation, Small Claims Court...

    Then again, you might be breaking the law yourself if the puppy wasn't properly registered or the breeder was unlicensed, and you were aware of that. I have so many questions: did you have a contract with the breeder? ...

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    Tania28
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    I just hope for your sake that the mating and the litter have been registered. 🤔 Tell us a bit more

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    Tania28
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    Was the deposit paid via bank transfer? It might be worth speaking to your bank, as they may be able to help.

    Do you perhaps have legal cover included in your home insurance policy?

    That’s a lot of ‘maybes’, but there must be a way to get your money back. 🤞

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    Tania28
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    Hi there, he’s just telling you whatever suits him. If I were you, I’d file a formal complaint. I’ll have a look online to see if I can find anything that might help. I’m also going to ask @Leeleebijou, who’s a breeder, to see if she has any info. Speak soon.
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    Kikaah
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    Send a letter via recorded delivery summarising the situation and let them know you’re giving them a set amount of time (it’s up to you to decide how long) to pay you back once they’ve received the letter; otherwise, they’ll have to deal with your solicitor. Usually, that’s enough to get things moving.

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    Tania28
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    Have you sent them a letter by recorded delivery? Keep a record of all your messages and you’re right, you definitely need to act fast. I think they have between two weeks and a month to issue a refund.
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    Tania28
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    Hello, Do you have legal cover? Get in touch with them. Your insurance provider will help you with the next steps. It does seem a bit strange, though... Keep us posted.
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    ProvetoJuniorConseil
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    Hi,

    I’m so sorry to hear about the situation you’re in. If a refund was offered and agreed upon by both parties, it’s only right to expect to hear back from the breeder within a reasonable timeframe. I’d advise you to keep hold of all written correspondence, proof of payment, and any commitments the breeder made. If they still don’t get back to you, you could get in touch with Citizens Advice or seek legal advice to find out what the best course of action would be.

    Best of luck with this difficult situation,

    Kind regards,

    Romane

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