URGENT - My dog's been seized and nobody's explaining why?

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I desperately need some advice.

I am the owner of a 7-month-old dog who lives at my friend's place. During the first vet appointment, they asked for my details over the phone; I thought it was just to book the appointment, but it turned out it was to register me as the official owner. I bought this dog, but he lives with my friend, and he and his brother are the ones looking after him.

We got this dog to be a guard dog. Since he's still a puppy and hasn't been fully trained yet, when we're out at work, he stays in his crate (which is plenty big enough for him) with toys and food.

Yesterday, 6 police officers, 2 specialist unit officers, an investigator, and people from the RSPCA turned up to seize my dog, Kiwi.

I wasn't notified about this seizure at all; it was only later in the afternoon that my friend called to let me know the dog had been taken because a complaint had been filed against me for animal cruelty.

I was in total DISBELIEF. First of all, my dog has never been mistreated. Furthermore, why wasn't I told that my dog was being taken away? After all, I am the legal owner, my details on his pet health record are up to date, etc.

Are they actually allowed to seize a dog without notifying the owner at any point?

Once I heard the news, I called the police station to try and understand what was going on. I soon realised that the women working in the offices opposite our place had contacted the RSPCA to report that the dog was being kept in a crate. I’m not going to deny the facts: it’s true that Kiwi stays in his crate for a few hours while we’re at work. I want to point out that he is taken out in the morning, afternoon, evening, and at night (since there are several of us looking after him, so everyone takes him out around their own schedules). I understand that leaving my dog in a crate isn't the best situation for him, but he's still young and he destroys everything he sees, so unfortunately we can't leave him loose in the house when we aren't there. I'd like to know, is it normal for them to take my dog straight away? Isn't there some kind of warning before a seizure? I find it hard to accept that leaving him in a crate that is spacious enough for a few hours constitutes such serious neglect that they'd seize him instantly—especially needing 6 police officers, specialist units, and so on...

When I found out he'd been seized, I called the police station but also the people from the RSPCA, who were completely dismissive and looked down on me over the phone. They wouldn't tell me anything, they didn't answer any of my questions, and they really spoke to me as if I were the worst person in the world.

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  • Petit Ours
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    I’m sorry, but I find this whole story really odd... are you sure your friends haven't done anything wrong? Animal rescue charities usually find it very difficult to intervene in cases of neglect or abuse, so if they have stepped in, there must be a reason for it... 🤷 Same questions as before... is your dog a restricted breed? What kind of crate is he in? And why are there so many people looking after him?
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    Your story sounds a bit odd. It’s usually hard enough getting the police to step in even in cases of proven cruelty, yet here they’ve apparently seized your dog who was relatively “well” looked after and in perfect health... It’s all very strange (unless they’re filming one of those rubbish reality shows). It seems like there are several of you looking after the dog, and you’re clearly not the primary carer. You might not have the full picture. Start by demanding some answers from your “friends” and then call the police; they should be able to explain the procedure to you. We also need to understand the context. You mentioned a Staffie in a cage. Do you live in an area where dog fighting is a problem? That could be a factor. Or maybe your dog is a banned breed under the Dangerous Dogs Act; that would also make a difference.
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    You say there are several of you looking after him? Is everyone really sure they’ve done nothing wrong? This kind of thing only happens after an investigation and never for no reason (even if that’s hard for you to hear, I realise). But if you aren't looking after the dog 24/7, there’s no way of knowing if everyone watching him has been acting responsibly. I’ve only ever seen animals seized in serious, proven cases of neglect or abuse. Do you have any health records from your vet (X-rays, follow-up notes?) that would prove this is all a misunderstanding, that the dog is getting all the care he needs and isn't suffering any mistreatment?

    Plus, your story is a bit strange—you became the owner just through a phone call? Didn't the breeder sort out the paperwork? How did you actually get this puppy? I’d also say that if you are 100% certain the dog has never been mistreated, get a solicitor to help you fight your case. However, I’d be very surprised if they just turned up and seized him without saying a word (there’s always an investigation first and discussions with the person responsible for the dog).

    And you won’t like hearing this, but getting a puppy knowing you’re going to leave him locked in a crate all day because you’re busy, without teaching him how to be left alone without getting anxious... well, yes, that is a form of neglect (perhaps not serious enough to justify seizing him, unless the other allegations are severe). I wonder if your "friend" has really told you the whole story?

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    I’m a bit surprised by this situation, as they usually only step in for serious cases of cruelty... they don’t seize animals easily; sometimes it really makes you wonder.
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    More and more countries are making it a requirement to take your dog out for activities, and it’s a brilliant thing.

    If your puppy’s situation has raised concerns, it’s likely for a good reason,

    even if the way it was handled was completely hostile, aggressive, and unacceptable.

    When you know you can’t be around for a puppy, adopting a young adult is the most sensible option.

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    I called the police station and the RSPCA again today to find out where my dog is, if I can see him etc., and they just laughed in my face. They’re telling me that Kiwi is receiving medical treatment... And now... I realise this is going to be much harder than I expected. I see my dog every day, he’s in perfect health, he eats really well, he doesn’t have any deficiencies, and when I take him to the vet they always tell me he looks superb and that everything is fine. I know perfectly well that my dog doesn’t need any treatment. Why are they lying to me??? The only thing they’re telling me and strongly advising is to get a solicitor as soon as possible!!! I don’t understand what’s happening to me, I’m in a state of extreme stress and anxiety. I really need help! Has anyone else been in this situation? Summary of my questions: Do they have the right to take my dog without warning during the seizure? Are they allowed to keep me in the dark about where my dog is being held? Do they have the right not to explain the facts to me when I call them? Was such a heavy-handed intervention really necessary (6 police officers, two tactical units, an investigator, the RSPCA)? Are they allowed to take my dog the very first time when he’s absolutely not in danger? Aren't there usually just warnings first? Why are they lying to me about my dog's health? What kind of penalties or charges am I facing?
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