Breeding unregistered Staffordshire Bull Terriers

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Hi everyone, I’m the proud owner of a beautiful 2-year-old Staffy. She has her pedigree papers but hasn't been 'confirmed' yet; we wanted to get her breeding validation sorted, but all the dog shows were cancelled due to COVID. A friend of ours also has a pedigree Staffy that hasn't been confirmed, and unfortunately, our two have done more than just play... Puppies are on the way, but we’re really scared that because the pups won’t be officially registered, they’ll be considered 'banned types' (that's what I've been reading on the Kennel Club website...). Thanks in advance and have a lovely evening.
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  • M
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    Right, that makes much more sense now. Even though we weren't planning on selling the pups, we really don't want them to be categorised and have the owners facing any hassle. Thanks everyone!
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    Both parents have to be registered with the Kennel Club and have their papers in order, plus the mating and the litter must be officially declared for the pups to be KC-registered. After that, it's up to the owners if they want to have them shown or officially assessed when they're older.
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    Your dog is KC registered, so she isn’t categorised as a restricted breed, even if she hasn’t been ‘confirmed’ yet. It’s the same for the male. However, since they haven’t been confirmed, the puppies won’t have KC papers and will therefore be categorised.
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    She’s Kennel Club registered but hasn’t been confirmed, so she’s basically considered unregistered, is that right?

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    That’s a bit odd, some people I know have a Staffie that isn't KC registered and it's classed as Category 2... I don’t quite get it myself. 😅

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    Draugen, it’s not just about the litter being undeclared—you can usually take your time with that—it’s the fact that the dogs aren't KC-registered. We’re talking about a Staffy here; it’s either a 'Category 1' dog or not categorised at all, but it’s never Category 2. Whether it seems logical or not, that’s the law, and it is illegal to breed Staffies that aren’t KC-registered. "Dogs of the American Staffordshire Terrier type (formerly Staffordshire Terrier), also known as 'pit bulls'; Mastiff-type dogs, also known as 'boerboels'; Tosa-type dogs. As the aim of the law is to limit the number of Category 1 dogs, any acquisition, transfer (whether for a fee or free of charge), introduction or importation into French territory is prohibited and punishable by 6 months’ imprisonment and a fine of around £12,500 under Article L215-2 of the Rural and Maritime Fishing Code." Source: https://agriculture.gouv.fr/les-chiens-de-categorie-1-et-2-dits-chiens-dangereux Even if, in practice, this is rarely enforced against those buying them, I’m not so sure about those selling them.
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    The puppies will be Category 2 (rather than 1) as the litter isn't registered.
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    Oh dear, my poor girl... I’m honestly so heartbroken for her. I suppose it’s possible, but if both parents are purebreds, even if they weren't officially confirmed, then it just doesn’t seem right that the puppies should be put into a restricted category... thanks.
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    Normally, yes. Personally, I’d recommend a termination if it’s still possible.

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