My dog killed my other dog

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Hi everyone,

I really need some advice. My 2-year-old Husky has killed my partner’s dog, a 3-year-old Jack Russell.

We have four dogs: three Jack Russells (one male and two females) and my Husky.

They usually live separately—the two female Jacks live outside in a pen, while the Husky and the male Jack (who is 7 months old) live in the house or outside depending on the weather and what they fancy.

They do have contact, though, as they can see and sniff each other through the wire of the pen.

My Husky is a bit of a tricky character; she’s fine with submissive dogs but she is definitely a dominant type, so as long as another dog doesn’t growl at her, she doesn’t bother them—at least when we're away from the house anyway.

With people, she’s very wary and will only let me and a few people she knows get near her, but even then, that's only at home. When we're out, it’s only me. I’ve had her since she was about 10 or 11 months old.

She’s never attacked other dogs before, except to defend one of mine that was being went for, and one other time when she pinned an off-lead dog that came charging at her growling.

On walks, we let them all out together off-lead and there’s never been a problem; they play together and so on...

My Husky has never had any issues with my male Jack or the other female Jack, except around mealtimes when she absolutely has to be left alone. However, she’s never really liked the female dog she killed; there were never any real fights though, except once when the Jack Russell actually snapped at her over a toy. I told her "no" and grabbed her, and she didn't retaliate.

But today, we let them all out into the yard to play together like we usually do, and my Husky stood over the other dog like she usually does to show she’s the boss. Normally she just does that, has a sniff, and then wanders off, but this time she grabbed her by the neck and shook her violently. I had a lot of trouble getting her to let go—she’s a big girl, over 4 and a half stone (66lbs)—but it was too late, she’d killed her... I could see she’d gone in for the kill; it was so violent and she even tried to go back at her.

What do you think? I’m terrified of letting her near the others now... and when we’re out, I usually have her off-lead (I go hunting and she comes tracking with me, so she’s never on a lead). Could this change her behaviour with other dogs?

I don’t understand why she did it; there was no food around, and the other dogs weren't even close by...

Sorry for the long post, I just wanted to give as much detail as possible.

Thanks in advance.

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  • Amstaff'Forever
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    Worst case scenario, give it a go, but use a muzzle.
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    Hi everyone, I’m checking in to give you all an update. I’ve contacted several dog behaviourists and had a long chat with one of them on the phone. We tried to figure out what could have pushed her to do that; there are a few possibilities. He explained that it shouldn’t change her general behaviour if she isn't currently showing any aggression towards my two other dogs, though of course, there’s no guarantee it won't happen again with other dogs when we're out and about. However, the fear is still there. I love my dog and I trust her 100% with me, but now I’m in a total panic when it comes to others. I just can’t bring myself to put her back in with the little one; I tense up as soon as she gets anywhere near him, which means I’m forced to keep her shut away in a separate room. I know it’s not fair on her, but I can’t help it, I just can’t do it any other way. I bought a muzzle to put my mind at rest while I get her used to it again, but she can’t stand it at all. I’ve tried treats and everything else, but nothing works. She lets me put it on, but then she does everything she can to rip it off, and I feel like it’s pointless and just stressing her out. It’s a vicious circle because she’s on her own, so she whines as soon as I take the other one out, and vice versa. I don’t know what to do, I’m at a total loss... I’m due to start hunting again soon. I usually go for the pleasure of seeing my dog burn off some energy and enjoy herself, but now I’m just stressed, wondering how on earth I’m going to manage when there are other dogs around.
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    I am so sorry for your loss. It’s completely impossible to explain exactly what’s happening without seeing the dogs in person, and you definitely need a proper diagnosis from someone qualified to prevent any future incidents. However, what I’ve read about predation and hunting has left me speechless, and I’m certain your behaviourist will completely disagree with your vet.
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    Emma1975
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    I am so sorry for the loss of your dog...

    What you are going through is heart-breaking.

    I really hope someone can help you, and help your husky too.

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    Thanks for all your encouragement and advice...

    If anyone knows a good behaviourist nearby, I’m based in the Aube area (10).

    I’m also looking for one myself.

    Today I didn't take her out with the others, just on her own with me. I think the Jack Russell has realised what happened; she doesn’t even dare go near her, even through the run, which she’s never done before.

    In the meantime, I think I’ll follow the advice I was given and buy a muzzle so I can at least take her out with the little one safely.

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    For me, it’s not even just about her being a Husky as such, though goodness knows their high prey drive and primitive nature can cause owners all sorts of headaches, especially when it comes to living with cats or other small pets. In this case, it looks like "simple" female-on-female aggression. While it’s generally less common than trouble between males, when it does happen, it tends to be far more vicious and bloody. Either way, there isn’t much we can tell you on here, other than to say we’re really sorry for what you’re going through. You seem to be handling it with a lot of courage and perspective. Try to find a proper professional—not just some run-of-the-mill trainer who’ll harp on about dominance and force, but someone (maybe even a couple of people to get a second opinion) who can accurately analyse what’s going through your dog’s mind and explain how to read her. In the meantime, take all the necessary precautions without ostracising your Husky, as she’ll only suffer for it.
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    Hi, This is such a heartbreaking story, I’m sending you so much strength during this awful time. I didn’t even realise that was possible :'( Thinking of you, Yo
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    Hi there, So sorry to hear about this sad story. It does seem that Huskies are somewhat 'predisposed' to this kind of incident. If I were you, I’d get in touch with a dog behaviourist specialising in prey drive as soon as possible. There are a few who are particularly good, and the two I know well both 'specialise' in Huskies. To prevent any further incidents of this nature, this seems to me to be the only thing to do. Unfortunately, with such a risk to your other dogs, I think relying solely on advice from the internet would be unwise!
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    Enicia
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    Hi, I’m so sorry to hear this, it’s absolutely heartbreaking. I can’t really offer an explanation, but your story reminds me exactly of another very similar thread posted a while ago. I'll share the link with you; you might find some answers there... https://wamiz.com/chiens/chien-loup-tcheque-143/forum/ma-chienne-a-tuer-mon-autre-chien-61585.html
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    Enicia
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    Hi, I’m so sorry to hear this, it’s absolutely heartbreaking. I can’t really offer an explanation, but your story reminds me exactly of another very similar thread posted a while ago. I'll share the link with you; you might find some answers there... https://wamiz.com/chiens/chien-loup-tcheque-143/forum/ma-chienne-a-tuer-mon-autre-chien-61585.html
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