The "main" owner in a couple

Lewina
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Hi everyone!

As some of you know, we’ll soon be welcoming Athos, a Brittany Spaniel puppy, into our home. The wait is getting tough because as of yesterday he’s 2 months old, and my good intentions of leaving him at the breeder’s with the other dogs (indoors) for a better weaning process are starting to waver.

Because of that, I’ve been thinking about it a lot, and as usual, I’m driving myself a bit mad. So, here’s the question that’s been niggling at me (I do love that word – or rather, the French version ‘turlupine’ 🤭) today.

I’ve always heard that when a couple gets a dog, one of the two always ends up becoming the main ‘boss’ or the dog’s primary reference person. The dog might obey the other person just fine, but perhaps much less so, or they might look at their ‘main owner’ before obeying the other, and so on.

--> Firstly, is that really always the case? Can both members of a couple be on an equal footing? What is it that makes one the boss and the other not? Is it time spent together? The person who teaches the commands? The one who feeds them? The one with the deepest voice?

At my parents’ house, I always saw this idea confirmed: my dad was clearly the boss you didn’t disobey, but my mum was the one who fed them so the dogs obeyed her too—though sometimes they’d look at my dad first, or sometimes they’d ignore her, acting like ‘Eh? I didn’t hear you...’ for several minutes before finally doing as they were told. And if my dad gave an order and my mum said the opposite, it was my dad’s command that was followed.

--> Next... how do I make sure our puppy sees me as his main reference?

That would suit me for several reasons:

1- It’s a dream of mine to have a dog and to have the closest bond possible with him. My husband has never had a dog and mainly wants one because he likes them and wants to make me happy too, but training clearly doesn’t really interest him. He’s aiming for the kind of relationship I had with my parents’ dogs: play, cuddles, walks, and a bit of basic obedience.

2- The goal eventually is to go out hacking with the dog, so he’ll need to obey me even when I’m perched on my mare. I think we need to create a real bond so the dog doesn’t see my words as ‘secondary’ authority.

3- My husband is a bit of a soft touch and very lenient (at least with the cat). For training, that’s not great. He doesn’t do it when I’m there, but when I go to my parents’ for the weekend, the kitty is basically on holiday XD! He doesn’t keep an eye on things so she climbs everywhere, and he lets her sleep on the bed even though during the week with me she’s not even allowed in the bedroom... I can’t imagine what he’ll be like with the puppy! Anyway, I’m getting ahead of myself; he’s promised not to do it with the dog because he saw it didn’t have a great impact on the cat’s personality (she’s a right little pain in the neck), and I believe him.

...(more to follow in the next message)

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  • Lewina
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    Thanks, that’s really put my mind at ease!

    I’ve never actually raised a dog before. I know how to handle a mare, and I know what I should have done with my cat (but I let my husband take the lead on a lot of things as he wanted to find his own way; I figured it was better to let him experiment with the cat rather than with a dog!), and I’ve got plenty of ideas and things I want to do with the dog.

    I know everything won’t go exactly to plan and there’ll be ups and downs, but I still hope I’ll manage to do a decent job and build a lovely bond with our little Athos ^^

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    Evening all, Having never lived with a partner (yeah... I know, mental at 30!), I’ll just share my limited observations instead! Since I wasn't living with a bloke, my sister ended up house-sharing with me and my two dogs for two years. Of course, she’d met the dogs before moving in, especially the female. When I was around, she would either ignore my sister’s commands or only half-listen. But when I wasn't there, she’d focus entirely on her and obey just as well as she did with me. Sirius, the Dobermann, was another story—he was always "confrontational" with her. Even when I was out, he never listened to a word she said and even took the chance to drive her up the wall. When I was a kid, my first dog only had eyes for me. I was out during the day, though, so my mum was the one looking after him (well, if you can call it that). She could never get him to behave properly, or at all really (Dobermann power lol). Basically, a dog fixes on one specific person—a "reference point" who isn’t necessarily the one who gives them the most, but the one who is the most consistent and reassuring as a "guide". You don’t need to be there 24/7 or be overly sweet and a total pushover, like my mum tried to be with that first dog. It’s clear that "one-on-one" time is vital for building that kind of bond, but it’s mainly what you do in those moments and the attitude you project that will determine who they "fix" on.
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    Bobkat
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    Hi there,

    You can't really say for sure what makes a dog choose one person over another as their "favourite".

    Mind you, if your dog chooses your partner, it doesn't mean they won't listen to you, or that it'll be impossible for you to go out for walkies.

    What we do see is that it's not necessarily the person the dog spends the most time with who gets chosen; it's not always the one who feeds them every day or takes them out for most of their walks. Beyond that, it’s hard to tell—just like with us, it’s often just down to a natural connection.

    It could be that they prefer a firmer person whom they respect because that person finds it easier to set boundaries. Dogs aren't gluttons for punishment, but at least with a person like that, everything is clear; they know exactly what they can and can't do and when.

    Well, that's my take on it anyway... then again, it could be the complete opposite!

    That’s not much help, really.

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    Lewina
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    I’ve always been a bit like this, prone to overthinking and getting a bit worked up over different things ^^ Don’t get me wrong, it doesn’t ruin my life; deep down, I actually quite like researching for hours and discovering new stuff... Mind you, it is occasionally accompanied by some unwelcome worrying, but luckily that’s not always the case ^^ I’m going to try and just take things as they come. Regarding the 'senior dog' and puppy introduction, what do you all think? I should mention that the old boy is almost blind and likely nearly deaf (we still have our doubts though, based on how he reacts to sounds sometimes—we can’t tell if he genuinely can’t hear us or if he’s just ignoring us when we talk to him XD). He’s very patient with my cheeky little nuisance of a kitty when she visits.
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    Kikaah
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    I don't think you should get too worked up about it, as you're already starting out under a bit of 'pressure', with worries that will just end up stressing you out more than anything else.

    The dog will have two points of reference, but for certain things at certain times, they'll choose which one to follow; it’ll just depend on the moment.

    In my house, there isn't really just one single 'main person' (even though I reckon I am more than my partner ^^). I'm the one who feeds and waters my dog, who brushes her... but she never makes a fuss of me in the morning when I get up, whereas she does for my partner. On the other hand, she tends to come and find me if she wants to play ^^... and so on.

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    Lewina
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    So, even if he spends more time with my husband, if I'm the one more attuned to him and involved in his walks, training, and feeding, is it still more likely that he'll choose me as his main person?
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    Lewina
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    ...Continued. Anyway, my husband has just been made redundant (thanks, Covid!) and is home 24/7 doing an online course for a new qualification. This means the puppy is going to see more of him than me... Given that, is it actually possible for him to see me as his primary "person"? Even if I’m the one teaching him all his basic commands? Well, by the time the pup arrives in December, my husband might be back at work since the shops are reopening. His employer mentioned calling him back as soon as possible, but we’ll see... And at the weekends, I’m currently negotiating with my mum about taking the puppy over to theirs. In the long run, she’d be thrilled, but right now they have an 18-year-old dog who’s nearing the end. She doesn’t want to "let him go" yet (that’s a whole other complicated topic we can get into if you like, but it wasn't my original point), and she’s worried it won’t go well with the puppy and will stress the old boy out. Any thoughts on that "stress" factor, by the way? So, for the time being, in the early stages, would it be a problem to leave the puppy with my husband? Am I overthinking things? (Probably, but I always do XD). Sorry for the mountain of questions 😳
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