The "main" owner in a couple

Lewina
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Hi everyone!

As some of you know, we’ll soon be welcoming Athos, a Brittany Spaniel puppy, into our home. The wait is getting tough because as of yesterday he’s 2 months old, and my good intentions of leaving him at the breeder’s with the other dogs (indoors) for a better weaning process are starting to waver.

Because of that, I’ve been thinking about it a lot, and as usual, I’m driving myself a bit mad. So, here’s the question that’s been niggling at me (I do love that word – or rather, the French version ‘turlupine’ 🤭) today.

I’ve always heard that when a couple gets a dog, one of the two always ends up becoming the main ‘boss’ or the dog’s primary reference person. The dog might obey the other person just fine, but perhaps much less so, or they might look at their ‘main owner’ before obeying the other, and so on.

--> Firstly, is that really always the case? Can both members of a couple be on an equal footing? What is it that makes one the boss and the other not? Is it time spent together? The person who teaches the commands? The one who feeds them? The one with the deepest voice?

At my parents’ house, I always saw this idea confirmed: my dad was clearly the boss you didn’t disobey, but my mum was the one who fed them so the dogs obeyed her too—though sometimes they’d look at my dad first, or sometimes they’d ignore her, acting like ‘Eh? I didn’t hear you...’ for several minutes before finally doing as they were told. And if my dad gave an order and my mum said the opposite, it was my dad’s command that was followed.

--> Next... how do I make sure our puppy sees me as his main reference?

That would suit me for several reasons:

1- It’s a dream of mine to have a dog and to have the closest bond possible with him. My husband has never had a dog and mainly wants one because he likes them and wants to make me happy too, but training clearly doesn’t really interest him. He’s aiming for the kind of relationship I had with my parents’ dogs: play, cuddles, walks, and a bit of basic obedience.

2- The goal eventually is to go out hacking with the dog, so he’ll need to obey me even when I’m perched on my mare. I think we need to create a real bond so the dog doesn’t see my words as ‘secondary’ authority.

3- My husband is a bit of a soft touch and very lenient (at least with the cat). For training, that’s not great. He doesn’t do it when I’m there, but when I go to my parents’ for the weekend, the kitty is basically on holiday XD! He doesn’t keep an eye on things so she climbs everywhere, and he lets her sleep on the bed even though during the week with me she’s not even allowed in the bedroom... I can’t imagine what he’ll be like with the puppy! Anyway, I’m getting ahead of myself; he’s promised not to do it with the dog because he saw it didn’t have a great impact on the cat’s personality (she’s a right little pain in the neck), and I believe him.

...(more to follow in the next message)

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    Well, why not have a bit of a rough and tumble with your dog if it’s a game you both enjoy?

    I haven’t lived with a partner much and I’ve never adopted a dog as a couple.

    But I’ve noticed the same thing others have mentioned: it’s not always the person who does the most for them who ends up being "the boss".

    At my parents' place, regardless of who did the feeding (it changed depending on the dog) or the walks etc., it’s always been my mum who the dogs actually listen to. Every single dog they've ever had has been the same. It’s simply because my dad doesn’t really know how to handle them and, to be honest, I don’t think he’s that bothered 😅

    Their dogs listen to me just as well as they do my mum, even if I only see them for an hour a day. I’m not some "third owner"; it’s just that the dogs are well-trained.

    Mind you, my dad—who can’t get their dogs to do a thing—could actually take my Dogo Argentino out for a walk. It wasn’t that my dog saw him as "the boss", it was more that no obedience meant no walk. He wasn't daft; he'd behave just to get out for a walk. But as soon as they were back home, that was it! 😅

    Anyway, I think that with couples, there’s often one person the dog listens to more, but not always. I know some people who are on a totally equal footing where the dog listens to both of them just as much.

    But at the end of the day, the dog will choose for himself; there’s no point overthinking it or trying to force things.

    Just enjoy your new dog's arrival!

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    Lewina
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    You lot are making me laugh! My husband never had a dog, even as a kid (no pets at all really, his brother was allergic to fur), so he mostly just pictures the big play sessions and everything! ^^ It's a good thing too, I'm sure the dog will love it! I like a bit of a play-fight with dogs myself; I had so much fun with my uncle’s retriever when she was 9–10 months old and we looked after her for a month, but I’ve promised myself I won’t do it with ours ^^
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    Balista
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    Yes, it's his first dog as an adult. He did have dogs at his parents' house when he was younger, though, including a Fox Terrier he talks about all the time (I actually met him during his final year). Apparently, he was exactly the same with that dog: roughhousing, always teasing him to get a reaction... and let's just say a Fox Terrier is quick to react! 😅 But they clearly adored each other, even if my husband says he got nipped more than once as a lad (and he still finds it funny...).

    Anyway, he hasn't changed a bit: he’s still a proper big kid! 😁

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    @Balista :

    Oh, it definitely looks like it! Spot on! Is it your husband's first dog too? 😉

    Mine says Rio just sees him as his playmate 😁

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    @Flip: It sounds like we’re in exactly the same boat as a couple! 😁

    My husband also moans that Pin-Up jumps up on him more than me, or that she doesn’t always listen to him as well... but he brings it on himself! We have completely different ways of playing with her.

    With me, it’s mostly games of fetch and scent work. The rest of the time, it’s just stress-free walks off the lead and cuddles. That’s it. My husband, though, play-fights with her or sits her on his lap like a toddler (and Pin-Up absolutely loves it 🙄)... and he teases her a lot (like making weird noises to get her all wound up because he finds it hilarious). It’s no wonder her reactions and the way she behaves with each of us are so different...

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    Flip-Cockwood
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    To be honest, I think it’s just our own perception and the vocabulary we use that makes us frame it as a 'sole master' situation.

    I’m more inclined to think that a dog always does its best to work a situation to its advantage, so it adapts to each individual. It’ll react differently depending on who it’s dealing with. If my dog still jumps up at my partner but not at me, or if he’s still a bit mouthy with my partner but not with me, it’s not so much that I’m the 'only master' as it is that my partner hasn’t been consistent with him from the start... Since the signals haven't been the same, the behaviours are different...

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    In my house, Rocky, my mum’s dog, really was a one-person dog (but then he’d had a bit of a rough past). He tolerated me, and over time he eventually learned to show at least a modicum of respect for my commands when we were out. At first, he’d always just leg it whenever I took him, off to go for a walk on his own! Gypsie and Dingo, my two, definitely prefer me, but they still listen to and love the rest of the family as well. Joyna, my mum’s dog, prefers my mum but she obeys me too. It’s funny because I’m the one who actually takes them out and plays with them. But that’s just how it is—each dog has their person. Dingo made his own mind up. He arrived as a bit of a fifth wheel and didn’t really "belong" to anyone, but he was determined to carve out a place for himself right by my side. Regardless, except for Rocky, they’re all deeply attached to every member of the family in the end.
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    Docline
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    My parents always had dogs, and I never noticed them picking one over the other as their "master". My dad spent more time training them and had a closer bond, while my mum did the feeding and had a very clear natural authority; the time spent out on walks with either or both of them was probably about the same.

    When my partner was still with us, we each had our own dog to begin with. Each dog kept their original owner as their main point of reference. As for the dogs we had later, I'm not so sure; I suppose they relied on me more because I was around more often, but we didn't really think about who the "main owner" was, probably because it wasn't at all obvious.

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    Lewina
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    The wait is starting to feel like ages now! We were supposed to go and collect him on Wednesday the 9th of December, but in the end, Sunday the 6th suits the breeder better... I don’t think three days will make much of a difference to the weaning, and it’s three days less to wait, so Sunday it is! 🤭

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    Athos will probably gravitate towards you since you’re a woman. If you’re the one feeding him, that’ll definitely be a plus. Mind you, some dogs just need a male presence, and I don’t think that’s something you can really control. One thing’s for sure: the more time and attention you give him, the more he’ll focus on you. Hang in there; I’m sure the days must feel like they're dragging.
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