Dog death - potential causes, could it be acute pulmonary oedema?

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Hello,

I'm looking for some answers regarding an event that has really traumatised me.

I was recently looking after a friend’s old dog; he was ten years old and had a heart murmur as well as issues with fluid on his lungs.

I had some tablets to give him (Libeo, and another capsule, but I didn't have the packaging so I don't know what that one was).

On the first night I picked him up, he couldn't settle and stayed on his feet, or he’d lie down only to get straight back up again. Since I’d looked after him before, I didn't worry too much as I knew he wasn't comfortable away from home and was often quite nervous.

The next day, there were no signs of any health problems. I took him out as usual, but during the evening walk, everything went wrong: the dog refused to go out. This was also quite typical for him as he'd always been a bit lazy, but I encouraged him anyway. In the hallway, he did a massive wee (this surprised me because I'd taken him out 6 hours before, but since he wasn't my dog, I just figured he had some house-training issues). Once we were out on the street, he walked a few yards and then lay down in a sphinx position, as if he was just tired. No noisy breathing or anything. I called the vet anyway, since he still wouldn't get up after a few minutes, but the line was busy. Then suddenly, the dog collapsed onto his side, tongue out, drooling a huge amount, eyes rolling back, and panting very fast. Within 5 minutes he was gone and there was nothing I could do. I couldn't even get through to the vet (and as I live in the countryside, the nearest one is a 30-minute drive away; I wouldn't have made it in time anyway).

I’ve been feeling incredibly guilty since then, even though my friend told me his heart probably just gave out (the stress of being away from home, without his owner, maybe the journey from his place to mine was the final straw). Basically, he thinks his dog died of old age, but I'm still convinced I should have seen that something was wrong. I’ve been doing some research and the fluid on the lungs could be the cause, so I wanted to know if any of you have witnessed acute pulmonary oedema in your dogs. I can’t stop thinking about it and telling myself he must have suffered if that was the case, and I blame myself for not being more attentive. On the other hand, he wasn't breathing noisily; as I said, he just collapsed, drooled a monstrous amount, messed himself, and his tongue was hanging out and was white. Has anyone else been through this?

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    Hello, I’m so sorry to hear about your little Bélot... I completely understand your pain and that nagging thought, "I was the one who decided it was the end". I’ve had to make that same decision myself, as have many others here on the forum. It’s always a heartbreaking choice to make, but please rest assured it was the right one. Letting them go so they no longer have to suffer is a true act of love! Try to think instead about how you gave Bélot a wonderful final chapter after he lost his previous owner. He was so lucky to find a new family to care for him and love him right until the very end. Focus on all the happy times you shared together, rather than those sad final moments...
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    I'm absolutely heartbroken and inconsolable because I've just lost my little dog Bélot, who was 12 and a half. He had a lot of health issues, including an enlarged heart, and he was suffering from pulmonary oedema. After a severe episode, the vet advised us to have him put to sleep because he was in pain and could have suffocated at any moment. The vet had given him an injection and he was being seen very regularly for these problems. That was eight days ago now and I’m still racked with guilt, even though I know deep down I didn't want him to suffer. He was a little dog we adopted after his previous owner passed away; he was 10 at the time (it’s just awful, I only got to have him for barely three years). Yet he was being monitored very closely every three weeks. I just can't come to terms with the decision I had to make and I keep blaming myself. Can anyone help me?
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    Hi there,

    Please don't feel guilty; there really wasn't much more you could have done.

    I lost my Pointer to pulmonary oedema. He just collapsed and his tongue went completely blue. The vet who treated him gave him an injection, and my dog did a massive wee as we were leaving the surgery. His tongue turned pink again.

    But he also had heart problems, and sadly he didn't live much longer after that scare.

    It’s always a tragedy when they pass away; you’re never truly prepared, even though you know a dog’s life is far too short. I take comfort in knowing he had a brilliant life with us and that we made the absolute most of our time together. But his time had come.

    Thinking of you.

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    Thank you all for your kind words!

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    Energiesolaire
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    That’s actually the fate awaiting my cat Petrouchka.

    It is what it is, and there’s nothing we can do to change it. We’re making the most of her while she’s still here. She’s living her absolute best life.

    (Grade 4 heart murmur – it’s already a miracle that she’s made it past the age of 2).

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    I’m so sorry to hear what you’re going through... I went through the same thing with my daughter's cat, who also had a heart murmur and then one day suffered a pulmonary embolism. She started howling really loudly because she was in so much pain, her back legs became paralysed and she also messed herself... It wasn't something we could have predicted because she was on daily medication and, according to the vet who came to the house to put her to sleep, that’s often the case: a heart murmur can just suddenly deteriorate and there’s nothing you can do... My daughter was unfortunately away on holiday at her grandma’s and didn't get to say goodbye to her cat. She still gets tears in her eyes when we talk about her, but you couldn’t have seen this coming and you couldn't have done any more than you already did... Sending lots of strength to you and your friend.
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    Energiesolaire
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    A Doberman, six and a half years old. Her pride and joy, her best friend. Truly. He was her life, or at least a massive part of it.

    Perfectly healthy on Monday, gone by Tuesday. Within 24 hours, it was all over. A pulmonary oedema, presumably caused by a heart murmur that neither his owner nor the vet even knew about.

    Life can be incredibly cruel sometimes.

    She’s since adopted a water dog. In fact, here they are, her and her new pup:

    [youtube=https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RxMRYH_Esfk]

    I hope these clips put a little smile on your face and show that life... goes on.

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    Thanks, it really is hard to get over it! And as for your friend, was it pulmonary oedema?

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    Energiesolaire
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    Personally, no, but it happened to a close friend of mine. It’s so aggressive and sudden; there’s really nothing you could have done.

    The meds would have only bought them as much time as possible.

    I’m so deeply sorry for the stress this whole situation has put you through.

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