I’m thinking of getting a Dobermann from a breeder in Serbia. I would have preferred to find one here in the UK, but I really want him to have that classic Dobermann look... so I’m leaning towards Serbia instead.
Has anyone ever imported a pup from there before? Does anyone have a recommendation or a specific breeder’s details?
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Yeah, among other things. Their popularity has nosedived since ear cropping was banned, which means a smaller gene pool and a concentration of hereditary defects. Besides, these procedures were originally for FUNCTIONAL reasons. Having had a 'natural' Dobe myself, as they say, the tail was a total nightmare. And as for Cane Corsos, I’ve lost count of the dogs with recurring ear infections because of those floppy ears...
Personally, I’ve ruled out the Beauceron... because their natural ears aren’t particularly easy on the eye, and I suspect other fans of the breed have felt the same (I know a few who have, anyway). Obviously, that plays a significant part in the popularity of any given breed.
I’m not immune to irony, but if you’re going to use a reductio ad absurdum argument, it should at least be well-founded. So yeah, comparing a blood sport to a routine procedure is a bit of a stretch.
And we shouldn't deny that neutering is still an elective surgery most of the time (especially where dogs are concerned), just like ear cropping or tail docking.
As @Wiegehts says, we aren't going to change the world; the regulations are in place. While I understand the animal welfare spirit they are intended to have, they’ve already really messed up the breeds involved. Like her, I’m disappointed by the level of foresight shown by the EU authorities—it’s on a par with our own "Dangerous Dogs Act".
Maybe it's because humans wouldn't like it if it was done to them???
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Well, yeah, cutting off their ears and tails... Which is exactly what I’d suggest doing to bullfighters when the bull has put up a proper fight! It’s a long debate...
Erm, steady on. Do babies who get their ears pierced or get circumcised enjoy it? And what about neutered dogs—did they ask to have their bits chopped off? No, and yet I don't see anyone kicking up a fuss about that. As for comparing ear cropping to bullfighting... no comment. 😡
I’ll just jump in on one point: getting them snipped limits breeding, and given how many people mess around with their pets for their own pleasure or for profit, it almost should be compulsory in my opinion. Ear cropping, unless there’s a health risk, is purely cosmetic; it’s just as stupid as getting a baby’s ears pierced. Tail docking, just like ear cropping—I can understand doing it for health reasons, but for aesthetics... well, I’ve already said what I think about that. Mind you, there are people who treat their own kids like pageant props, so I’m not surprised they do the same with their pets, but it’s still a totally selfish thing to do.
I completely agree with you!
Anyway, everyone’s entitled to their own opinion. The law has spoken; I think it’s a rubbish ban and others are glad about it, but it’s still a matter of personal choice. This debate has been done to death already, so there’s no point starting it all up again.
As for the user who bumped the thread, well, she’s got her answer, so at least that’s something 😁
I'll just weigh in on one point: getting them snipped limits breeding, and given how many people mess around with their pets for their own pleasure or for profit, I reckon it should be almost mandatory.
Cropping ears, unless there's a health risk, is purely for aesthetics: it’s just as st***d as getting a baby’s ears pierced.
Tail docking, same as ears—doing it for health reasons, I can understand, but doing it for looks... well, I’ve already said what I think about that.
Then again, some people treat their own kids like show objects, so I'm not surprised they do the same with their pets. It doesn't change the fact that it’s purely for their own selfish pleasure.
Maybe because humans wouldn't fancy having it done to them???
Well yeah, cutting off their ears and tails... which is exactly what I’d like to do to bullfighters when the bull puts up a proper fight! It’s a never-ending debate...
Steady on, let's not get carried away.
Do babies enjoy getting their ears pierced or being circumcised? And what about neutered dogs—did they ask to have their bits chopped off? No, and yet I don't see anyone making a fuss about that.
As for comparing ear cropping to bullfighting... no comment. 😡
Maybe because humans wouldn't like it being done to them???
Well, exactly—cropping their ears and docking their tails...
Which is what I’d suggest doing to bullfighters when the bull has put up a proper fight! It’s a never-ending debate...
