What's the difference between an AmStaff and a Pit Bull?

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Could someone explain EXACTLY what the difference is between a Pit Bull and an American Staff, if there even is one... I'm fed up with hearing so much rubbish about it...

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    Look, don't put words in my mouth...

    When it comes to breeding, it’s clearly about more than just having a male and a female...

    I’m not slagging off proper breeding work, the FCI, or official pedigree records. What I’m saying is: it’s a rubbish law, made by idiots who didn’t consult a single dog expert, and it’s just pushing ignorant people to talk absolute nonsense about a breed that has already suffered enough at the hands of humans, and is now suffering all over again because of the labels people give them...

    I’m saying that terms like ‘mutt’ and ‘mongrel’ were already around, and there were better ways to categorise so-called dangerous dogs instead of just saying ‘Pit Bull’—why not just ‘dangerous dog’...???

    Especially since it’s now been proven—and it makes me quite proud to say it—that the breeds on the restricted lists aren't actually the ones responsible for the most bites...

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    So, if I’ve got this right, you don't give a toss about the law, the Kennel Club, the FCI, or being registered in a proper stud book, selective breeding... basically the whole point of a breed. But you're still defending the fact that it's labelled as a "breed". That logic is completely beyond me. In the UK, it’s illegal to import banned types, even if you’ve got a fancy piece of paper from a registry that isn't recognised here. Cheers @Kallys34, you're a massive help. Tell me, have you actually read a single word I’ve written? ... Honestly, fine. We can pull up every website going about "miniature German Shepherds" and all those "designer crosses" that sell well and that people want to see recognised... or any of the loads of "breeds" not recognised by the KC or FCI. I’ve already mentioned a few. "Dangerous Dogs Act 1991, relating to dangerous/stray animals and animal protection: Included in the list of banned types, as defined by the legislation: - dogs with the physical characteristics of the American Staffordshire Terrier type, which are not registered with a breed registry recognised by the government. This type of dog is commonly referred to as 'pit bulls'." Just a minor detail, clearly. -_-'
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    A very lovely specimen as well, kallys34 ;)

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    But you can still keep a purebred Pit at home... it just won't be for breeding, that’s all...

    Otherwise, it would be illegal... In Martinique, I’ve already seen AKC pedigrees for Pits from some top-tier bloodlines, so just imagine what it’s like in France!!!

    The thing is, because there’s no official pedigree to prove their origins, no real proper breeding work can be done since it’s all falsified and, more importantly, illegal. But it definitely is a breed lol, I’m sticking to that... LMAO!!!

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    A Pit Bull, then... O_o!! LOL!!

    No, seriously, you should really do some research on the American Pit Bull, my dear... How can the American Staffordshire Terrier be a breed without having a father?

    It’s like you’re telling me a Doberman is a breed but a Rottie isn’t...

    This is even worse – the AmStaff has no other parent than the Pit. I’m not going to get into the Pit’s origins because I can tell you’re already struggling to keep up.

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    Coming to your rescue, arawak!!! ;)

    http://www.dog-breeds.com/pitbull/american-pit-bull-terrier

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    Célineo
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    LMAO! Gwash!!! You’ve forgotten! She’s a vixen... -_-' I’ve got a Lundehund. Arawak, I completely understand what you’re trying to tell me; what I’m painstakingly trying to explain is that in France, this breed doesn't exist. You can't claim to have a pedigree Pitbull any more than you can say you have a pedigree Italian Wolfdog, EVEN if they are recognised in certain places and have been for ages. There are older breeds that still aren't FCI-recognised simply because they aren't well-known outside their native countries. That's just the way French law is written, and there's nothing we can do about it. Also, I don't know if you've noticed, but some people are starting to think there could be such a thing as a 'registered' pedigree Pitbull in the same way as Labradors or German Shepherds, because you’re confusing the whole issue. In France, this breed doesn't exist and cannot exist. You aren't allowed to import a Pitbull, even if it’s a pedigree in its own country. It’s illegal. I’m not saying it’s a good thing; I’m just saying that’s how France operates, and they’ve chosen to use the term "pitbull" to describe crossbreeds. That’s just the reality of the situation, even if I’m aware it is a breed recognised in some countries and by certain kennel clubs.
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    She’s got a Jack Russell cross Chihuahua XD

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    Look, you've got Pit Bull pedigrees in Australia, Argentina, the US and so on...

    The breed has been around since the 1800s and you're refusing to understand that the American Pit Bull Terrier isn't just a label, it's a BREED...

    What kind of dog do you have, @celineo??

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    Of course not, it doesn’t just happen overnight; I never suggested it did. But there are so many made-up breeds used to sell crossbreeds for ridiculous prices that we have to have a standard to refer to. Otherwise, you might as well tell me that a Pit Bull is a breed, or a Poo-chon (a Poodle x Bichon cross) is a breed, or the Lupo Italiano is a breed... The fact is, they can’t be anything other than "crossbreeds" because they aren't recognised here in the UK or by the Kennel Club. Only dedicated enthusiasts trying to promote the breed can really manage to own one (recognised by an official breed registry), and as for Pit Bulls, they're banned here anyway.
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