Premature labour

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Hi everyone,

I’m new to the forum and I’m looking for some advice or to hear from anyone who’s been through something similar to me.

First off, I’ve done a lot of reading on various forums and I’m really not looking for any judgement, just some help or reassurance if anyone has experienced this.

I bred my female Ragdoll with another Ragdoll and she was due between the 17th and 20th.

We had an X-ray on the 11th to find out exactly how many kittens to expect; there should be 4 or 5.

Then the nightmare started...

At 12:30 am, Mystik started meowing and wouldn't leave me alone until I followed her into the bathroom. I realised she was about to go into labour, so we got her kittening box ready.

At 1:15 am, she pushed a kitten out just like she was going to the toilet... it was stillborn, but she still looked after it, cleaned it, and ate the placenta. It weighed about 0.15 lbs.

At 1:45 am, she properly delivered the second kitten. It’s very small but lively. It’s trying to suckle and is quite wiggly. It weighs 0.12 lbs.

I should mention that I’ve called two different vets about the prematurity, and they both told me there isn't much to be done and that I just have to let nature take its course.

I haven't slept since; I'm staying right by them because my girl needs some help and encouragement to look after her kitten.

What I’m worried about, and my main question, is that it’s been nearly 18 hours since the second kitten was born and nothing else has happened... no contractions, no visible pain, and she seems to be acting normally.

I don't know why, but she growls when she goes to eat her dry food...

I called both vets again.

One told me that kittening usually lasts 12 hours at most and that I could bring her in tomorrow for hospitalisation.

The other said if nothing happens by tomorrow morning, I should bring her in for a scan to see if the babies are still alive and then decide what to do... but neither of them seemed particularly alarmed, and I just don't understand why?

My theory is that Mystik wanted to get rid of the stillborn kitten to protect herself, but another one came out with it... and she’ll carry the rest of the litter to full term? Is that even possible?

Many thanks

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    Thanks for your reply, it’s brilliant that she managed to have five lovely kittens 12 days later. I hope the second kitten has the same luck as yours did; still nothing to report here yet.

    Have a good day

     

    Hi there!

    How are you getting on? Any updates?

    I hope everything is going well and that you’re not feeling so anxious about your cat giving birth anymore!

     

    Have a good day

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    Thanks for your reply! It’s brilliant that she managed to have five lovely kittens 12 days later. I’m really hoping the second kitten will have the same luck as yours, but so far there’s still no sign of it. Have a lovely day!
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    Hi, 

    How did your story end? Are Taïga’s kittens doing okay??

    I’ve taken in a cat who has just had a premature kitten at about the same stage of pregnancy as yours.

    The vet I saw gave me more or less the same advice as yours.

    But I’m panicking; I’m so worried about finding more dead kittens in the house (especially in the middle of the night in my bed), luckily my kids were fast asleep. 

     

    Best regards, 

     

    Taïga and the 5 babies. The photos are from 28th May; I’ve changed the bedding because the other bits were bloodstained from the placentas and the birth.

    Hello! 

    So, for an update: on 25th May '24, Taïga gave birth to 5 kittens who are all doing great now!

    It was a real emotional rollercoaster too! Here’s the story of what happened:

    She’d been nesting for four days in one of the boxes I’d set up (with towels and newspapers). She rarely went out for more than 10 minutes, which I found quite worrying. 

    That Saturday morning (25th May), my partner and I had to go out. I left around 10 am and we got back around 2 pm to find Taïga.

    She wasn’t in the nesting box she’d been using for four days, but in another one she usually plays in, with two little fur-balls. 

    She was very alert, but no crying or panting. The little ones were nursing, and Taïga was still looking quite round. I stayed with her, and after an hour, I brought her some food and water. She polished off a mini chicken fillet and had some water.

    Within two minutes, she had a third kitten, a ginger one, while purring away. (3:11 pm)

    After that, she settled back down with her babies and nursed them. She seemed very weak and her temperature wasn’t going back up (it stayed around 36°C).

    I started to panic because she seemed really exhausted and her breathing was laboured. I called a breeder friend who advised me:

    to pick up my cat and feel her tummy. If there are still (fairly large) lumps inside, there are still kittens. Be careful, though, as small lumps might just be the uterus shrinking back.

    If there are still lumps, wait and keep an eye on her temperature. (I can feel a little sausage shape across her tummy... from left to right across her flanks, not lengthways).

    head to the vet the next day if nothing happens in the meantime.

    Mind you, my cat is quite happy to be touched; I know that’s not the case for all animals.

    I kept bringing her water, and around 7 pm I decided to give her another mini chicken fillet.

    Here we go again—Taïga devours the lot, stands up despite the babies’ protests, and gave birth to another one, this time after several minutes of heavy contractions (7:16 pm). She looked absolutely spent and gave it a quick lick before lying back down. I immediately gave her more water and another mini fillet, which she ate.

    I thought it was all over, but I stayed close to her (watching shows on my phone while keeping an ear out) because her breathing was still quite ragged.  

    And surprise! At 9:40 pm, Taïga gave birth to one last kitten, quite a big one. Even while it was still attached to her, it started nursing 😮.

    I gave my girl more food and water, but she didn’t touch much of it.

    I went to bed because she was purring and looking after all the kittens (an intensive grooming session, and her breathing was finally back to normal). The next day, I found Taïga and her little ones in top shape. 

    •She stayed with them non-stop for two days (she didn’t go to the toilet during those two days. If it lasts any longer, it’s vital to take the cat to the vet).

    •Then she started leaving the box to sleep near us for an hour or so.

    •And since Wednesday, she’s been going outside again. Never for long (an hour and a half max). 

    One slightly mean little experiment:

    •The babies had been crying for 20 minutes and Taïga wasn’t coming back in, despite me calling her (in my best desperate cat-lady voice). So I picked up the loudest baby and went to the window with it; she was back within 10 seconds. She was outraged, but she nursed her babies. (Don't do this if it's cold, as the little ones need constant heat and can't regulate their own temperature yet).

      So there we go, I wouldn't worry. I’m sad I didn’t see the first two being born, but Taïga is doing a brilliant job with her litter despite the first kitten we lost. And the birth was actually very quiet in terms of meowing (I’ve been told some cats scream the whole way through, so don't panic if your cat is vocal). :)

     

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    Personally, I don't think she can just push out the dead kitten whenever she feels like it and keep the others in. I wouldn't wait until tomorrow; I'd get her to the emergency vet straight away, as I'd be terrified of it ending badly. Hi, I wanted to share my experience here because I couldn't find anything online and it fits this situation perfectly. I have a little cat, nearly a year old, who I reckoned was about a week or two away from giving birth. Except this morning (around 9am), Taïga started crying and coming to find me. At 9:20am she gave birth to a kitten... I watched her; she cleaned it, ate the placenta and the cord, but after a few minutes I realised the kitten was pink (hardly any fur at all), almost lifeless and wasn't trying to suckle. She lost interest very quickly. So much so that she left the nest (a box with blankets and towels) and left the little one inside. She went to eat and then lay down further away. I picked up the kitten, brought it to her and tried to get it to latch onto a teat. It didn't take it, but it did let out a little squeak. She stayed near it and licked it, but that was it. She stopped having contractions and wasn't restless anymore. No more crying. The catch is, my girl is still as round as a barrel. So, I went to the emergency vet with the kitten at about 10:30am. And this is what I found out: - **A cat can give birth to a premature/non-viable kitten and continue with her pregnancy.** Based on the kitten's appearance, the vet was able to estimate how far along Taïga’s pregnancy was and told me to wait at least four days to a week before her contractions start up again. After an X-ray, they saw there are still at least four kittens in her belly. The fact that Taïga's water broke isn't a disaster because: - **Each kitten is in its own separate amniotic sac.** **And they can therefore survive until the end of the pregnancy.** I was able to go home with my girl (sadly without the premature kitten) and I’ve been told to keep a close eye on her for 24 hours before letting her get back to her usual routine (going outside, etc.). I was told she might be extremely tired and potentially lose her appetite for 24 hours (any longer than that and I have to go back to the vet). **So, the main things to check are:** - **My cat's temperature (not over 39°C).** - **If there is any coloured vaginal discharge (green, yellow, or smelly).** - **Loss of appetite for MORE than 24 hours.** - **Contractions starting again.** So, if you ever find yourself in this situation: 1) Go to the vet. 2) Your cat isn't necessarily in danger :D. 3) The rest of the pregnancy can continue, and the kittens can be healthy. 4) The premature one can survive (depending on how far along the pregnancy was). Just for info, since I got home (12:30pm), Taïga has been sleeping peacefully next to me. I'm checking on her regularly. Hello, how did your story end? Are Taïga's kittens doing okay?? I’ve taken in a cat who has just had a premature kitten at roughly the same stage of pregnancy as yours. The vet I saw gave me more or less the same advice as yours. But I'm panicking; I'm scared of finding more dead kittens in the house (especially in the middle of the night in my bed). Luckily, my children were fast asleep. Kind regards.
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    Personally, I don't think she can just deliver as she pleases, get rid of a dead kitten, and hold onto the others. I wouldn't wait until tomorrow; I'd get to an emergency vet straight away because I'd be too worried about it ending badly.

    Hi everyone, I wanted to share my experience here because I couldn't find anything online and it’s relevant to the current situation.

    I have a young cat, nearly a year old, who I reckoned was about a week or two away from giving birth.

    Except this morning (around 9 am), Taïga started crying and came to find me.

    At 9:20 am she gave birth to a kitten... I watched what happened; she cleaned it, ate the placenta and then the cord, but after a few minutes I realised the kitten was pink (just a bit of fuzz at most) and almost completely limp. It wasn't trying to nurse, and she lost interest very quickly.

    She even left the nest (a box with blankets and towels) and left the little one inside. She went to eat and then lay down further away.

    I picked up the kitten, brought it over to her, and tried to get it near a teat. It didn't latch on, but it did let out a little squeak.

    She stayed near it and licked it, but that was it. She didn't have any more contractions and wasn't restless anymore. She stopped crying.

    The thing is, my girl was still as round as a football.

    So, I headed to the emergency vet with the kitten at around 10:30 am.

    And here is what I learned:

    - A cat can give birth to a premature/non-viable kitten and continue with her pregnancy.

    Based on the kitten's appearance, the vet was able to estimate how far along Taïga was and told me to wait at least four days to a week before her contractions start up again. After an X-ray, they saw there were still at least four kittens in her tummy.

    The fact that Taïga’s waters broke isn't a problem because:

    - Each kitten is in its own separate amniotic sac.

    They can therefore survive until the end of the pregnancy.

    I was able to go home with my cat (sadly without the premature kitten) and I’ve been told to monitor her for 24 hours before letting her go back to her normal life (going outside, etc.).

    The vet said I might notice she's very tired. She might lose her appetite for 24 hours (any longer than that and I have to go back to the vet).

    So, the main things to check are:

    - My cat’s temperature (no higher than 39°C).

    - Any coloured vaginal discharge (green, yellow, or smelly).

    - Loss of appetite for MORE than 24 hours.

    - Contractions starting again.

    So, if you ever find yourself in this situation:

    1) Go to the vet.

    2) Your cat isn’t necessarily in danger! :D

    3) The rest of the pregnancy can continue, and the kittens can be born healthy.

    4) A premature kitten can survive (it all depends on how far along the pregnancy was).

    Just for an update, since I got back (at 12:30 pm), Taïga has been sleeping peacefully next to me. I’m checking on her regularly.

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    Hi there, Searching for answers on the internet and forums is only wasting time; you're much better off seeing an emergency vet straight away. Every case is unique, but in this kind of situation, there isn't much that can be done to save the kittens; however, your cat's life might depend on getting her seen. Take care, and please come back and let us know how you get on 😊
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    Hi everyone, I’m new to this forum and I’m looking for advice or to hear from anyone who has been through something similar. First of all, having done loads of research on various forums, I’m not looking to be judged; I just need some help or at least some reassurance. I had my Ragdoll queen mated with another Ragdoll, and she was due between the 17th and 20th. We had an X-ray on the 11th to find out the exact number of kittens, and it looked like there were 4 or maybe 5. Then the nightmare started... At 12:30 am, Mystik started meowing and pestering me to follow her into the bathroom. I realised she was about to go into labour, so we set up her kittening box. At 12:15 am, she pushed out a kitten as if she were straining for a poo... it was stillborn, but she still took care of it, cleaned it, and ate the placenta. It weighed 0.15 lbs. At 12:45 am, she properly delivered the second kitten; it’s very small but lively. It’s trying to nurse and is putting up a good fight. It weighs 0.12 lbs. I should mention that I’ve called two different vets regarding the prematurity, and they told me there’s nothing to be done anyway; we just have to let nature take its course. I haven’t slept since all this happened. I’m staying right by them because my girl needs assistance and encouragement to look after her kitten. However, what’s worrying me—and this is my question—is that almost 18 hours have passed since the second kitten came out and nothing else is happening... no contractions, no visible pain, and she’s behaving fairly normally. It’s just that, for some reason, she growls when she goes to eat her dry food. I called the two vets again. One told me that labour usually lasts 12 hours maximum and that I could bring her in tomorrow to be hospitalised. The other told me that if there’s still nothing by tomorrow morning, I could come in for a scan to see if the babies are alive or dead in her womb and then decide what to do... But neither of them seemed particularly alarmed, and I don’t understand why? My theory is that Mystik wanted to expel the stillborn kitten to protect herself, but another one came out with it... and she’ll carry the rest of the litter to full term? Is that even possible? Best regards. Hi, I’m looking for answers too. Finding out the end of the story would be really helpful as I’m in the exact same situation. Thanks in advance.
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    Oh dear @CalineB, of course wildlife and nature have their place here; but you have to realise that sometimes we’re dealing with ‘backyard breeders’ who just do whatever they want, without any regard for the consequences. Look at it from that side of things.

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    Hi, Honestly, those of you judging her... what are you actually trying to achieve? Animals were out there breeding freely long before we came along; we’ll be gone, and they’ll still be out there breeding. There is NOTHING natural about spaying and neutering, and it can even lead to complications later in life (my cat had 3 litters, and all her kittens are now adults, vaccinated, microchipped and were given to lovely, kind-hearted people). I was living in a flat and was in my final year of school when a friend rescued my cat and gave her to me because she couldn't keep her. I found a part-time job after my classes to take care of her and guess what? I did get her spayed after her litters, but only because I didn't have enough money before then (between toys, litter and the best quality dry and wet food, it’s expensive for a student). I didn't think twice about stepping in to help her when she was offered to me. As for her pregnancies, she simply MANAGED TO ESCAPE to do what nature called her to do. All her babies are doing well 6, 5 and 4 years later, except for one who was killed right outside my home (the mum was so sad after that, but knowing her, I always find a solution to her problems, and when it's out of my hands, I have a brilliant vet). So, these pointless, unhelpful comments... if humans stopped reproducing the whole world would be better off, and if we were sensible, we’d leave more room for wildlife and nature because neither we nor animals are meant for concrete and pollution. You wanted to steal animals' habitats and domesticate them, so now we pay the price—keep quiet and stop judging. Everyone does their best, and those who actually mistreat animals never ask for advice, yet here you are discouraging those who have their hearts in the right place. At this rate, only "animal pros" should be allowed pets... honestly... ridiculous!
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    Mimij, if I’ve got this right, parents and their offspring are all having babies together?
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