Wondering if my cat is a Bengal cross

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Hi everyone, I have a 4-month-old domestic shorthair crossbreed. The vet mentioned that, given the texture of his coat and his perfectly symmetrical marbled markings, he could well be a Bengal cross—which wouldn't be out of the question since the dad is unknown 😂 It doesn't really change anything for me as I love him to bits regardless, I'm just curious because some of his personality traits are quite surprising. He's incredibly agile but also a brilliant companion for the kids, really playful and cuddly. He's a skilled hunter and climber who actually enjoys the water!

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    Diane_fr Icon representing the flag French
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    I didn't take it the wrong way, I just wanted to make it clear that I know he’s a moggie and always will be, no matter what ^^ No, I know Bengals aren't actually that big, but they're still a bit larger than a standard moggie. It’s also his head shape and those big paws of his that make me think there might be some Bengal ancestry there. Anyway, it’s just fun looking for similarities.

    I totally get it! Yes, it’s true you often hear that moggies have a hardier constitution (which is why I wonder why people still breed "pedigrees". It’s such a human thing to do, breeding for looks at the expense of the animals' health...)

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    Hey! 😁

    I wasn't criticising you at all, I was just saying that Bengals aren't typically massive cats. Yours being 6kg (around 13 lbs) definitely makes him a big lad, but among my non-pedigree moggies, I've had five that were over 7kg (15 lbs), with one at 8kg (17.5 lbs) and another at 9kg (nearly 20 lbs). None of them were overweight; they just had very large frames.

    That’s why I was wondering if you might be getting them mixed up with Savannahs, which are one of the three largest domestic cat breeds (getting up to 13kg—about 2 stone—I believe). A Savannah cross would likely be a very large, athletic, leggy cat.

    But I completely get what you mean. The thing is, the gene pool of European moggies has so many ancestral crosses with Oriental cats and African Wildcats (sylvestris lybica)—not to mention modern breeds—that it's impossible to say for sure if the OP's cat is specifically part Bengal, especially just by looking at the coat.

    Even in humans, there are surprising genetic mixes that challenge the idea that you can predict health issues just by knowing the "breed" or background.

    Take me, for example: I’ve got a 100% dark complexion (lol). I’m not mixed-race, so I can soak up the sun in the tropics without the slightest worry about sunburn. Of course, you still have to be careful about melanoma, but that typical "white person" sunburn? I don't even know what that feels like!

    On the other hand, I have mixed-race African friends who have quite dark skin, but because of their mixed heritage, they get sunburned just like white people do, though perhaps not quite as severely.

    What I’m trying to say is that purebreds often have breed-specific diseases due to inbreeding. The fact that this cat isn't a registered pedigree (like the LOOF in France) actually protects him. Instead of having breed-related issues, his mixed background makes him heartier thanks to "hybrid vigour."

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    Diane_fr Icon representing the flag French
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    I never said he was a purebred Bengal. I know perfectly well he’s a moggy. I haven't got any photos on this phone and he won't let me take one right now. I've measured him before and he’s 35cm tall (a bit higher at his back legs). His length is about 70cm, head and tail included. He’s got a very sleek build, a long, muscular neck (well, he’s muscular all over, really) and he walks like a wild cat. But no, his coat isn’t marbled and he doesn't have rosettes. I’m just saying it’s possible and that he has certain characteristics, especially in his behaviour. Anyway, I’ve got no way to prove it; he was found on the street when he was very young, with no siblings, so... and besides, even if he is a Bengal cross or the grandson of one, that’ll never make him a pedigree.
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    Do you have a photo with something in it for scale?

    Bengals are medium to large cats, but 13 lbs isn't really that unusual even for a moggy.

    Maybe you're getting them mixed up with a Savannah?

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    Kalou, you’ve got your wires crossed regarding PKD (kidney disease) 😁 This kitten is gorgeous, but in my view, he doesn't look even remotely like a Bengal; he’s just a lovely little moggie. Why be so desperate to find a specific breed in his family tree? An unneutered Bengal wouldn't be wandering the streets chasing after local females unless his owners were completely irresponsible.

    Actually, I don’t think it’s about being desperate to find a breed in the ancestry, but rather just curiosity or looking for an explanation for the cat's personality or physical traits.

    For instance, my parents got a kitten from a local rescue (he’d just had his first check-up at the vet) in exchange for a £45 donation of dry food and a promise to have him vaccinated, microchipped, and neutered. The vet said he was 2 months old, and it seemed believable at the time. But looking at him now that he’s an adult, I doubt he really was that age. He’s a 13lb cat (because he’s big, not fat) and has Bengal-like traits in his build, his gait, his energy, and the fact that he talks ALL the time! Despite that, he’s still just a moggie since he’s far from being a registered pedigree, which doesn’t make him any less lovable.

    What I mean is, it can also be interesting to know if your cat has some breed ancestry that might be dominant. For my parents' cat, for example, standard flea treatments don’t work because they only cover cats up to 9lbs. Again, it’s not a huge thing, but if the cat you adopt isn’t a pedigree but has ancestry from a breed with specific health issues, you can keep a much closer eye on their health.

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    Kalou, you’ve got your wires crossed regarding PKD (kidney disease) 😁

    This kitten is gorgeous, but to my mind, he doesn’t look anything like a Bengal. He’s just a lovely little moggy. I don't see why people are so desperate to find a specific breed in his ancestry; an unneutered Bengal wouldn't be out wandering the streets looking for local females unless his owners were completely irresponsible.

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    Yeah, it’s true, you shouldn’t let an unneutered cat out; there are enough strays as it is. Personally, I’m not fussy, a cat is a cat, so I’ve got moggies and they’re gorgeous. Each has their own personality, no two are the same. I didn’t quite get what you meant by genetic flaws? If he mates with other cats (even though he shouldn’t), like strays, he could still mate with one of his own breed or a pedigree cat without any trouble, so I don’t understand the "genetic flaws" thing?
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    He’s definitely a moggie, but why couldn’t he have a Bengal dad or a Bengal cross himself? People who have Bengals or pedigree cats let them out too—they’re still cats with the same needs at the end of the day.
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    Hi there,

    Your cat certainly has quite a unique pattern, but moggies come from all sorts of crosses and genetics just throws it all into the mix. You end up with some real beauties sometimes that look just like a particular breed. They're moggies nonetheless, and they're stunning.

    (I agree about vets — those who actually know their cat breeds are in the minority).

    Just to show you what I mean, here’s a photo of a little moggie who also looks a bit like a Bengal, despite not being one:

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    I reckon it is possible though—with all the crossbreeding, he could easily have a Bengal ancestor. I’m not saying he’s definitely got a Bengal mum or dad, just that it might be further back in his family tree.

    You can definitely find marbled Bengals online with a similar sort of coat, and rosetted ones as well.

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